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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by smilkovpetko » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:21 am

sidesprang wrote:
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sidesprang wrote:If you don't even trust my Math - See the Log even:

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 46&Fight=7


20% of my dmg is white hits = 22659 = 22659 threat
80% of my dmg is holy = 90638 + RF 81574 = 172212 threat

194871 Threats as Offtank overall fight.

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 6407_o.jpg


See how much mistaken i would be ? (probably with 3-4k threats for overall fight due mistake calculation on white swings or different timers) .

You would even Deny This now?!.

The realm players link includes phase 1 where you were consecrating and hitting multiple targets so the damage values aren't valid for a single target. Did you reset KTM when nefarian landed?

Sidesprang had included his 55k threat from the adds in phase 1 in his calculations.

Are you for fking real? Seriously stop lying and distorting the truth....

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=20825&start=150#p154932

That is the original post go fking read it, it CLEARLY states I substract the 55k threat from p1....


Substract or not = You End up At 258 k

If you even Substract 55k Threats

203000 Threats. Divide into 6 Minutes (563 TPS) .

See now who have Lied.


Yep you are braindead confirmed, read the post and find out why I stop after 95 seconds.


(he uses paladin class call so can't do TPS calcuations after that point).

Seeing by this Logic - I also have to Stop using Melee Swings for that too ..

So we are Equal on this.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by sidesprang » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:28 am

Nope, it just was a way to show how much threat a warrior does on a normal boss. Warrior threat are the same all the time as their rotation is the same. So you can take any boss and take a subsection of the fight and you will still average out to around 700 TPS as that is around what a warrior does on a normal fight.

I showed you with my math, I showed you with videoes. That our threat is around 700 TPS
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by smilkovpetko » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:41 am

sidesprang wrote:Nope, it just was a way to show how much threat a warrior does on a normal boss. Warrior threat are the same all the time as their rotation is the same. So you can take any boss and take a subsection of the fight and you will still average out to around 700 TPS as that is around what a warrior does on a normal fight.

I showed you with my math, I showed you with videoes. That our threat is around 700 TPS


320 Seconds = 224000 In Chromaggus you didn't even Match this to make your 700 TPS calculation.

Nevertheless where you was not even Preraid , but you was T1 with Legendary Raid + Raidconsumes + Raidbuffs.

In which you even try to disclose this and fake your spilling lies.

Let me Remind you that with more gear you go for - the higher Rage Starvation for you will be. And this will become Warrior issue later. Where Paladins will go over them by far getting more gear.

Our Threats are not Based on the Modifiers , Our Threats are Based toward Damage.

This Make Warrior have/use Limited Threats where Paladins Threats Scale with Gear and Consumes.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by sidesprang » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:52 am

smilkovpetko wrote:
sidesprang wrote:Nope, it just was a way to show how much threat a warrior does on a normal boss. Warrior threat are the same all the time as their rotation is the same. So you can take any boss and take a subsection of the fight and you will still average out to around 700 TPS as that is around what a warrior does on a normal fight.

I showed you with my math, I showed you with videoes. That our threat is around 700 TPS


320 Seconds = 224000 In Chromaggus you didn't even Match this to make your 700 TPS calculation.

Nevertheless where you was not even Preraid , but you was T2 with Legendary Raid + Raidconsumes + Raidbuffs.

In which you even try to disclose this and fake your spilling lies.


Chromaggus uses frost burn, look it up. And I was not full t2, 2nd kill on server, I had gotten 0 loot on the first clear.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by smilkovpetko » Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:56 am

sidesprang wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:
sidesprang wrote:Nope, it just was a way to show how much threat a warrior does on a normal boss. Warrior threat are the same all the time as their rotation is the same. So you can take any boss and take a subsection of the fight and you will still average out to around 700 TPS as that is around what a warrior does on a normal fight.

I showed you with my math, I showed you with videoes. That our threat is around 700 TPS


320 Seconds = 224000 In Chromaggus you didn't even Match this to make your 700 TPS calculation.

Nevertheless where you was not even Preraid , but you was T2 with Legendary Raid + Raidconsumes + Raidbuffs.

In which you even try to disclose this and fake your spilling lies.


Chromaggus uses frost burn, look it up. And I was not full t2, 2nd kill on server, I had gotten 0 loot on the first clear.


Good i fixed it and made Full T1 with Legendary Weapon + Raid Consumes / Buffs.

Your Weapon would Match toward my 200 Spell Damage Calculations using same quality of Weapons. .

Where i would be far higher than your Poor 200k Threats.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Armilus » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:54 am

smilkovpetko wrote:
Good i fixed it and made Full T1 with Legendary Weapon + Raid Consumes / Buffs.

Your Weapon would Match toward my 200 Spell Damage Calculations using same quality of Weapons. .

Where i would be far higher than your Poor 200k Threats.


Ya but I would have 5 million threat. And that's before I touch my keyboard.
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Theloras » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:08 pm

Another day, another MC clear and 4 bosses down in BWL for Entitled after the raid id reset overnight.

Today however, the WoW Gods smiled kindly upon me as Ragnaros dropped the 2nd best AoE tanking item in the game after Force Reactive Disk:

Essence of the Pure Flame
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 60
Equip: When struck in combat inflicts 13 Fire damage to the attacker.
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=18815

Now I know a lot of people openly scoff at this item but when it comes to AoE tanking, it is simply irreplaceable as you can see in the screen shots below from our clear of the BWL Gauntlet:

http://imageshack.com/a/img905/9381/7SfLB1.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img631/6836/O13Wmk.jpg

All that juicy white + yellow damage is wonderful to see :)

PS Don't forget about picking up this gem of an item as well from Mekgineer Thermaplugg in Gnomeregon - while you have to put the helmet on to activate the buff, you can put your tanking helmet back on afterwards and still maintain the reflective dmg aura seeing as it lasts for 10 mins with a 30 min cd:

Electromagnetic Gigaflux Reactivator
Binds when picked up
Head Cloth
44 Armor
+12 Spirit
+15 Intellect
Durability 50 / 50
Requires Level 32
Use: Channels a bolt of lightning and hurls it towards all enemies in front of the caster causing 147 to 168 Nature damage. The caster is then surrounded by a barrier of electricity for 10 min. (cooldown 30 min)
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=9492

Static Barrier
30 yd range
Instant
Surrounds the caster with a shield of lightning that lasts 10 min and inflicts 5 Nature damage to melee attackers.
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?spell=11841
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by macbrown » Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:17 pm

Sweet merciful Christ people, you've been flinging shit all over each other for nearly 40 solid pages now. Maybe it's time you all just backed off and retreated to wash off your poopy fingers?
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by SnowFlakes » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:04 pm

Theloras wrote:Now I know a lot of people openly scoff at this item but when it comes to AoE tanking, it is simply irreplaceable as you can see in the screen shots below from our clear of the BWL Gauntlet:

http://imageshack.com/a/img905/9381/7SfLB1.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img631/6836/O13Wmk.jpg



Damn, that's a TON of deaths. Did they die to your lack of threat?
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Re: What are the best classes & specs for each different rol

by Theloras » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:44 pm

SnowFlakes wrote:
Theloras wrote:Now I know a lot of people openly scoff at this item but when it comes to AoE tanking, it is simply irreplaceable as you can see in the screen shots below from our clear of the BWL Gauntlet:

http://imageshack.com/a/img905/9381/7SfLB1.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img631/6836/O13Wmk.jpg



Damn, that's a TON of deaths. Did they die to your lack of threat?


Are we really going to go back to $hitting all over each other both in-game and on the forums?
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