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Spirit Stat seems kinda important

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:39 pm
by Cronem
First of all, sorry for my bad english !

I think I "discovered" something. At least after searching a lot @ google I couldnt find anybody talking about it.

Heres the story:
I started leveling an undead warrior and as we all know, leveling a warrior is horrible in terms of self healing. I skilled first aid and healed myself sometimes but not too often. I got to lvl 10 when a friend of mine started playing alliance and I switched to playing a dwarfen warrior and started again. From lvl 6-8 I noticed that it was much harder to gain full health after every mob even with first aid and eating. Something felt different so I checked my hp regeneration ticks. My dwarf @ lvl 8 with 21 spirit ticked for 3health every 2 seconds. I logged on to my undead warrior and he gained 15health/tick. (lvl 10/28 spirit). This means that my dwarf regenerates 15health and my UD 75 health in 10 seconds (5 ticks). I searched the whole web for the exact formula for hp regeneration in vanilla but I couldnt find anything useful. I seemed very strange that a difference of only 7 spirit points gave 5times the hp regeneration. I couldnt find anything so I just tried to play on and the next mob dropped a scroll of spirit whigh gave my dwarf 3 spirit points and now i was ticking for 7 health. Only 3 spirit points doubled my regeneration. Soon after that I gained a level and now @ lvl 9 I still had 21 spirit and I was still ticking for 3 health (scroll expired again).

So why do I tell you all this? I think the racial starting stats make a huge difference (at least for the warrior!) UD starts with 25 spirit and gaining 5 times the health between mobs is remarkable. (considering that you have ~ 250hp @ lvl 10 gaining almost 30% of your health in 10 secs) makes it much easier to regain health between fights.

Does anybody have the exact formula for this?

Re: Spirit Stat seems kinda important

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:49 pm
by res
I know that warriors regenerate more base health per point in Spirit compared to other classes.

Wowwiki states that "Spirit*0.80 + 6" is how much you regenerate as a warrior Pre-TBC.

21*0.80 + 6 = 22,8 per tick

So according to that you should regenerate about 50 health per 5 seconds out of combat if you're a warrior with 21 spirit.

According to this you shouldn't be able to get below 6 health per tick, and you said you were ticking for 3 health per tick at one point so it doesn't seem to be correct, at least not on this server (Or maybe this is the formula at level 60?).

Re: Spirit Stat seems kinda important

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:52 pm
by Undertanker
Spirit at low level is very nice. Also use fear bomb bandage when needed. Helps a lot. Just remember to turn off attach or turn your body so you do not hit your primary target.

Other it is a good leveling stat that people do not use correctly, even while in combat on a mana user, wanding, bear form, bow shot or other things in combat will allow spirit to kick in for mana regen after 6 seconds. Take a few more seconds to kill something but you have little to know downtime.

Re: Spirit Stat seems kinda important

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:35 am
by skitszo
I tell people about spirit and HP5. No one ever stacks it on a warrior. later on you get gear in the 50.s that you can find that has HP5 on it and its nice if your running a tanking warrior build. can get away with a lot less food eating.

Re: Spirit Stat seems kinda important

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:28 pm
by GTrax
I'd say for some classes spirit could be a lot better than int esp where lvling is concerned. For priests for example
with the talent that gives you +x% spirit and regen while casting when you kill a mob. With high enough spirit you can just run around killing stuff while regening most (if not all) your mana.

On lvling paladins its also very good I remember never ooming while spamming Consecration rank1 + SotC auto attack while lvling. 8 sec cooldown on consecration made it easy to get atleast 2-3 mana regen ticks before having to cast it again. With high spirit its entirelly posible to get the 135 mana Consecration costs in 2-3 mana regen ticks. With BoW buff+high spirit its just crazy.

Re: Spirit Stat seems kinda important

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:42 pm
by gotmilk0112
GTrax wrote:For priests for example
with the talent that gives you +x% spirit and regen while casting when you kill a mob. With high enough spirit you can just run around killing stuff while regening most (if not all) your mana. .


Yep, Spirit is pretty much the best leveling stat for Priests, because you can talent for +100% spirit after each kill. Not only doubles your spirit for 15 seconds, but also gives you 50% normal mana regen while casting. But yeah, if you kill 1 mob at a time, you almost never have to drink.

Priest may have slow killing speed, but they make up for it with very low downtime. :D