Info about classes' value

[smilkovpetko]

by Ana » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:31 am
^ guy outlvls the content he's tanking by 5-6 levels.
Sadly you can't get lvl 65 for tanking raids, which is why prot paladin is shit.

@OP
To raid as ret/prot paladin you need a bad guild.
To raid as shadow priest you need either a bad guild or a guild that needs a shadow priest (since you only need one per guild, extremely unlikely).
Hunters are viable but there's plenty of them and a raid doesn't need more than 3.

Standard raid composition is roughly -
3 tanks, 3-4 fury warriors, 5 rogues, 3 hunters, 5 mages, 5 warlocks, 4 paladins, 4 priests, 2-3 druids, fill the rest with whatever (usually 1 shadowpriest or extra dps from whichever class). This is a good indication of how likely you're to get a raid spot based on what class you're playing.

^ he said that i outlvl the content
Sadly Vanilla don't have lvl 65 and i still raid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ovC3fkojlE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXV1lqIJr9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1_YEl0Yp8I

@OP
To raid as Ret/Prot Paladin you need dedication , there are still guild that clear all raids and use this spec
http://realmplayers.com/GuildViewer.asp ... %20Council
http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer ... Holystrike

To raid as Shadow Priest is very viable especial on the new patch that will come soon and if you preform good every high end guild will request you.
Hunters are terrible DPS and they use them only for Tranq and Trap (Useless) .

Standard raid composition -
4 Tanks , 8-10 random Melee (at least 4-6 that are able to interrupt), 8-12 Casters (mostly Mages) , 10-13 Healers (mostly Holy Priest) .

This is raid composition that very High End guilds who killed world first Kel'Thuzad back in 2006 have been using. (with exception of mandatory using 6-8 tanks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeL4qYgiMNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOpxCUuXDH8

[Theloras]

@OP
To raid as ret/prot paladin you need a bad guild.

Yes, Ret is clearly and completely USELESS in raids and Ritual is clearly a fucking terrible guild that can't clear 8/8 BWL...

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidO ... Raid=28175

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 75&Fight=7
- pay close attention to this fight in particular

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer ... &itemset=3

[Deitus]

Marvelling at everyone who intimates that you need to min-max composition at any level pre AQ40 at the earliest. On retail we cleared BWL with 2 retridins, a shadow priest and a bear tank in the rotation. In the 40-man raids pre AQ40 it was possible to carry multiple people so long as they were competant enough to move when they were likely to explode a raid! This idea that hunters are terribad or that bear tanks are unviable or "stack the mages or don't bother" are ridiculously flawed. Play what you enjoy, challenge those who blindly follow what others say and tell the ignorant to gtfo!!
There is no mass race to world first, if you aren't playing something you enjoy and you're doing it because what someone on a forum said what you enjoy isn't good enough, you're doing it wrong!!

[Ana]

Ritual is clearly a fucking terrible guild that can't clear 8/8 BWL...

... proceeds to link an MC raid.

Gratz, you don't seem capable of composing two lines of coherent text.

For the record "Ritual raids" have a meme status, but that's for reasons irrelevant to this thread

[smilkovpetko]

Ritual is clearly a fucking terrible guild that can't clear 8/8 BWL...

... proceeds to link an MC raid.

Gratz, you don't seem capable of composing two lines of coherent text.

For the record "Ritual raids" have a meme status, but that's for reasons irrelevant to this thread

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... t=22012414

oh was there Paladin on the Damage meter for Nefarian ?

[Ana]

Fascinating.


Hey, I actually went and wasted 5 minutes of my life to compare this claim:

To raid as Ret/Prot Paladin you need dedication
(...)
Hunters are terrible DPS and they use them only for Tranq and Trap (Useless)

to some, you know... facts. Here's a thing!

http://imgur.com/SBDBNhr

[smilkovpetko]

Fascinating.


Hey, I actually went and wasted 5 minutes of my life to compare this claim:

To raid as Ret/Prot Paladin you need dedication
(...)
Hunters are terrible DPS and they use them only for Tranq and Trap (Useless)

to some, you know... facts. Here's a thing!

http://imgur.com/SBDBNhr

o yeah you know .... facts . Here's a thing!

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 9804_o.jpg

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 8921_o.jpg

Where are your Hunters here?

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 75&Fight=7

Marvelous, wasted me 2 minutes of my time.

[Ana]

Probably being useful dpsing the boss instead of padding the meters
Also this is Nostalrius forum

[smilkovpetko]

Probably being useful dpsing the boss instead of padding the meters
Also this is Nostalrius forum

so you have Nostalrius report

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 75&Fight=7

[Theloras]

Fascinating.


Hey, I actually went and wasted 5 minutes of my life to compare this claim:

To raid as Ret/Prot Paladin you need dedication
(...)
Hunters are terrible DPS and they use them only for Tranq and Trap (Useless)

to some, you know... facts. Here's a thing!

http://imgur.com/SBDBNhr

Intellectually dishonest data parse much bro?

I'll let you try to figure out the error of your ways before replying with the answers...