Hit/Crit pre and post cap AP equivalents

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Hit/Crit pre and post cap AP equivalents

by Dr. Doom » Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:59 am

Interested in calculating the contribution of 1% hit prior to the cap (make distinction if PvE and PvP are different), as well as after.
Same deal with crit.

Could anyone help? Thank you in advane.
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Re: Hit/Crit pre and post cap AP equivalents

by Fagatron » Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:26 am

Dr. Doom wrote:Interested in calculating the contribution of 1% hit prior to the cap (make distinction if PvE and PvP are different), as well as after.
Same deal with crit.

Could anyone help? Thank you in advane.

What Class are we talking about ?
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Re: Hit/Crit pre and post cap AP equivalents

by Dr. Doom » Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:26 am

Fagatron wrote:
Dr. Doom wrote:Interested in calculating the contribution of 1% hit prior to the cap (make distinction if PvE and PvP are different), as well as after.
Same deal with crit.

Could anyone help? Thank you in advane.

What Class are we talking about ?


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Re: Hit/Crit pre and post cap AP equivalents

by Irachkom » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:53 pm

For warriors its ~8-12AP for 1 hit(when hit soft cap) and ~12-14AP for 1 hit(if your yellow still can miss), ~15AP for 1 crit, but you shouldnt forgot about crit cap and rage/sec, since w/o +hit at all you're getting 0 rage sometimes because of too much misses.

But in general, all phys dps classes crit>hit,
and hit>crit for all casters.
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Re: Hit/Crit pre and post cap AP equivalents

by Setup » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:26 am

Irachkom wrote:and hit>crit for all casters.


Hit is actually very, very slightly worse than crit for warlocks (because of improved shadowbolt talent), but there's no opportunities for you to meaningfully exercise that information. Caster gear in this game is incredibly linear, it's perfectly reasonable to treat crit and hit as equivalent, except hit can be capped and does basically nothing in pvp after the first few %.

Crit probably ends up being better for fire mages (during AQ40+) on the basis of them reaching the hit cap very easily, but I haven't crunched the numbers on that, so I can't say.

For rogue AP, it depends if you're dagger or sword, and it depends if you're horde or alliance. You can check out some estimates here: https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5412
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Re: Hit/Crit pre and post cap AP equivalents

by vido » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:58 am

It depends on your current level of ap, but a rough estimate would be 20ap for 1 crit post cap and 15ap for 1 hit post cap in pre raid/mc gear without buffs.
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