cybaster wrote:Wirt wrote:When the exposal of Vitaliy, hackers and exploiters was going on in February, Whitekidney was eager to shut down Alexensual because he took part in this.
I'd love to see some material on this one, as it's new to me. I've listened to every audio leak I could get my hands on, but I don't remember this bit. What was the context? Did he consider Elysium's administration legit at that point, and Alex a threat to a server he thought was on the level? Needs more info.
Most of us have seen the leaks related to WK, even before this Elysium debacle. I consider myself pretty studied in drama lore and a good judge of character, and the openness WK has been displaying lately, as well as a general
lack of evasiveness when pressed about his past paints him in a somewhat more positive light than I expected when I heard how all of this went down. You can actually go on the LH discord and expect him to talk in between coding binges. He's not giving the telltale signs of a bullshitter. Of course that can mean he's actually an expert at it. But it can also mean he's actually on his best behavior.
I mean shit, I've seen people accuse Pottu of corruption, but he's one of the most draconian guys around when it comes to RMT. Remember that time he pissed off like half of Elysium's staff by banning two entire guilds, to a man, for harboring and failing to report obvious RMT in guild chat?
The point I'm trying to make is that people, and I'm including you on this one, find ways to make things look worse or better than they ever are. So show me something I don't already know about WK.
There were concerns about Zzuk, Radeghost and Whitekidney working within Elysium and/or the Legacy Gaming Network project. Zzuk is the author of a well known farming bot. Radeghost has been botting and selling gold and power leveling. And Whitekidney, as you already know, has sold gold and power leveling and traded exploits and hacks on top of being a total douchebag here on Nostalrius. Alexsensual made a video on 15 February about them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wojIMT1fDDI using the information found here as a basis:
http://i.imgur.com/frSaPVV.jpgThen on 17 February additional information came out. This time about Vitaliy, the head administrator of Elysium. He had been caught being in a Chinese RMT channel offering to unban someone in exchange for money. The very same day Shenna made a statement about Vitaliy where she declared him innocent:
https://i.imgur.com/Qjt2A8Y.pngOn 19 February Alexsensual made another video which touched the findings on Vitaliy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuxHT8uHYDoHere's a good post about Vitaliy's past on Valkyrie and his actions on Elysium:
https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/com ... e_against/Suzerain made a post on 21 February saying he believes the information about Vitaliy is true (
https://puu.sh/udQTN/e6bb4952be.jpg). On the next day he resigned from the project (
https://www.reddit.com/r/ElysiumProject ... l_for_now/).
So, when you take into consideration the evidence against Vitaliy and that Zzuk, Radeghost and Whitekidney were exposed for the obstructionists they were or had been in the past, why would Whitekidney try to shut the criticism down? Also, according to Pottu, Whitekidney didn't have any other role than to work with webserver stuff at the moment (
https://i.imgur.com/8XvrG1K.png). Yet we see him taking a loud and dominant role on how to handle things when he demands to ban Alexsensual (
http://i.imgur.com/DRDjUUr.jpg and
http://i.imgur.com/bXngHvP.jpg). He even runs over those at the communications team when they don't share his opinion. Alexsensual was banned on 20 February. According to Suzerain, Whitekidney and Asura went through logs and found that logs that would prove whether Vitaliy was guilty or not had been removed. So, did Whitekidney advocate for an unban on Alexsensual after these findings? And why did they allow both Shenna and Vitaliy under new aliases after this?
I'm not ruling out the possibility that Whitekidney could be clean. But why didn't he (and Pottu) go with the evidence and demand a change of leadership back in February? Were revelations hurting Whitekidney's ambition to gain full access to the project? Also, why did Whitekidney ask Crogge for compensation for his silence but didn't release those screenshots?
Why did Whitekidney put effort in helping the Nostalrius team with security just to start conspiracies against them shortly after? (
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4077) Was he trying to get a position in the team so he could spawn gold and run a business and when he didn't get that he started trashing them? It's interesting because he started off in Elysium by only helping out with webserver stuff yet he ended up having full access.