Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Netherfrost » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:16 pm

Let me explain thoroughly then. It usually depends on the situation, encounter etc.

Heroic strike +damage/(and threat) is applied more often for quicker weapons assuming you have the rage to make it happen, in low rage situations (and you still somehow have max threat) max range might be better for raid dps since revenge hits for more, white dps will be higher (the amount of 1.3/1.4 weapons are limited around 45-52dps), and incl whatever other buttons youd use that use weapon damage. In the unlimited rage scenario, the fastest weapon is the best, especially if the slower weapon makes you lose heroic strikes (as in too slow to dump rage).
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Armilus » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:52 pm

From pre-raid to BWL gear levels DPS class scale a LOT with gear. Threat from prot warriors doesn't scale nearly as much. For that reason, I don't think a fast weapon is going to be important until DPS starts to get much better gear. Anything 2.0 speed or faster should be fine. That said, Scarlet Kris still has the best tanking stats.

Netherfrost did a great job explaining why fast weapons are good, if you still don't get it, here's another way to look at it.

Many warrior abilities have hidden 'bonus' threat associated so when you hit with revenge it causes damage from X damage + <some static amount of threat>. All of a warriors abilities are on a cooldown so you can only use them every so often EXCEPT heroic strike which depends on weapon speed. Faster the weapon the more you can use heroic strike which means more threat.
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by ThatsthePuzzle » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:56 pm

Yeah, I get it now. Thanks both.
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Imbaslap » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:57 am

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=10803
https://web.archive.org/web/20070527004 ... item=10803

I found this to be a very nice TPS weapon from Ogom the wretched in ST.
the corruption procs almost every hit so the uptime is very high.. each tick of 30 dmg from the corruption was giving 30 threat a tick - 90 threat over 3 secs of the debuff.

not the best for raiding but great for dungeon TPS and threat gain. could be used for a pally tank and it does scale with spell power.
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Netherfrost » Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:17 pm

Yea its definately not gonna work for a warrior and raiding, its rather slow and eats up a debuff slots, depending on the weapons debuff priority (might be the same as a deep wounds, ie. it gets pushed off by everything). Raiders shouldnt in general use the debuff slots for individual dps gains, aside from for instance, corruption which has the highest dps of the individual debuffs(In addition to SWP but you should only have 1 of them).
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Aquane » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:12 pm

Imbaslap wrote:http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=10803
https://web.archive.org/web/20070527004 ... item=10803

I found this to be a very nice TPS weapon from Ogom the wretched in ST.
the corruption procs almost every hit so the uptime is very high.. each tick of 30 dmg from the corruption was giving 30 threat a tick - 90 threat over 3 secs of the debuff.

not the best for raiding but great for dungeon TPS and threat gain. could be used for a pally tank and it does scale with spell power.

thats interesting, both that and tainted Pierce and ebon hilt of marduk say on hit: instead of chance on hit: , which means that its supposed to proc every single time
sword of corruption says chance on hit instead
and skullforge reaver also says chance on hit
https://web.archive.org/web/20041105054 ... item=14576 ebon hilt of marduk
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Youfie » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:51 pm

Aquane wrote:
Imbaslap wrote:http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=10803
https://web.archive.org/web/20070527004 ... item=10803

I found this to be a very nice TPS weapon from Ogom the wretched in ST.
the corruption procs almost every hit so the uptime is very high.. each tick of 30 dmg from the corruption was giving 30 threat a tick - 90 threat over 3 secs of the debuff.

not the best for raiding but great for dungeon TPS and threat gain. could be used for a pally tank and it does scale with spell power.

thats interesting, both that and tainted Pierce say on hit: instead of chance on hit: , which means that its supposed to proc every single time
however ebon hilt of marduk and sword of corruption say chance on hit instead
and skullforge reaver also says chance on hit

I'm sorry I might have missed something here, but to me it's indeed a "Chance on hit" on both links pasted above. :o
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Armilus » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:49 am

All weapons with 'Chance on Hit' said 'On Hit' at release. They updated the tooltip wording to clarify that it is chance on hit a few months after release.
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Netherfrost » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:30 am

There are a few amount of weapons which have smaller "procs", which are 100%, but they are listed entirely different. What first comes to mind is the fire rogues' MH, http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19968, but indeed, as Armilus already pointed out the formulation point, you cant neccesarily nitpick it on vanilla weapons and expect things to be as they seem to be.
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Re: Prot Warrior Pre 1.4 Gear List*

by Aybabtu » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:20 pm

What about Smott's Compass, http://web.archive.org/web/200502221150 ... witem=4130 , instead of Mark of Tyranny ?

This way you'd still be able to get Blackhand Breadth from the UBRS quest line

Also Phase blade is an acceptable tanking weapon for a start, http://www.wowwiki.com/Phase_Blade?oldid=352949
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