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Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:49 pm
by Aslan
NR Rings are pretty cheap, 20g'ish for a +18-21, Chimeric Set is basically for free, Maraudon will provide you boots/pants/cloak/shoulders/belt/trinket you can reach 150-200 unbuffed with moderate effort.

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:29 am
by Abnz
is there a addon where you can paste the stats value in to see when its better to chance the slot ?

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:33 am
by Setup
For my loadout, your spreadsheet says warblade of the hakkari (offhand) is better than brut blade (currently listed as BIS offhand.)

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:49 am
by Bluefear
Setup wrote:For my loadout, your spreadsheet says warblade of the hakkari (offhand) is better than brut blade (currently listed as BIS offhand.)


The OP hasnt been updated in a while. I think for OHs its BB < Hakkari < Maladath (even as human with 315 cap)

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:24 pm
by Setup
Maladath is also showing 5 dps lower than hakkari warblade (I'm a human.) Pls update, otto!

BTW Soyoen, Icy doesn't deal a source of frost damage, just a snare effect, so unless you're trying to apply a really good attack speed debuff, there's no reason to put it on your Viscidus weapons.

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:02 am
by hobnaker
Outside of Devilsaur, are Gargoyle Slashers and Plaguehound leggings BIS for swords?

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:09 am
by XJ9
Oto has quit playing to my knowledge. I don't expect updates from Oto for a considerable while though I think Soyoen is fairly knowledgeable as well.

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:25 pm
by provaporizer
im currently using http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=17705 and http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=15219 which has 7str 7 agi while in Combat sword spec.

would it be worth it to respec to combat dagger if i have access to http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=13368 and http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=18392 while i farm for dal'rends?

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:02 pm
by Soyoen
XJ9 wrote:Oto has quit playing to my knowledge. I don't expect updates from Oto for a considerable while though I think Soyoen is fairly knowledgeable as well.

In the general case I'm not half bad, although then there's some special cases like below:

Setup wrote:BTW Soyoen, Icy doesn't deal a source of frost damage, just a snare effect, so unless you're trying to apply a really good attack speed debuff, there's no reason to put it on your Viscidus weapons.

In which case I was incorrect :)

There are however alot of knowledgeable individuals both here and elsewhere, so it shouldn't be to much of a challenge to find help if needs be. The biggest arguments concerning the rogue class is mostly if not all restricted to item procs anyways so the general understanding is great ("The procrate of t0.5 energy is 3%!, no 2%, no 3,5%!, No it is PPM based damnit!") :lol:

Best of regards
Soyoen

Re: Rogue Guide by Oto

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:35 pm
by Aslan
Fairly sure icy chill worked on visci on peenix (mangos core argument here). At least i found multiple sources that it did/does, so it might work here too for x amount of time. On a private server that is 80% blizzlike we have to ask ourselves things like this :).

By the way do you have any sources for icy chill not to work on visci? (Retail vanilla). Whats the debuff called? (Cant acess the game currently to check it)