How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by masu » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:37 pm

Na, it really isn't +3 hit. There's this thing but it might not be accurate on Nost:
http://forums.elitistjerks.com/forums/topic/7214-skill-and-ranged-and-you/
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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by Azgabast » Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:52 pm

Interesting, but the rules can still apply. As Lactose tested out 6 hit and 4 skill and got ~1.3 miss, that's around the miss you get by the first formula (1.4 with +4 skill, which adds 1.6 hit), because the diff between the boss's def and your attack rating is greater than 10. I wish he'd tested with a +5 skill character :D.
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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by Softarunt » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:02 am

As always on private server, some people discuss "how it's working here, right now" and only really care about that, while others are mainly interested in "how it's supposed to be".
And discussions such as this become pretty confusing
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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by Shuwayze » Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:13 pm

Shouldn't it show on the character skill screen a +5 to guns for the racial?

Mine isn't displaying a +5 to guns.. is it a display bug or is it even giving me that extra hit?
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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by Shuwayze » Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:04 pm

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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by Dr. Doom » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:05 pm

Shuwayze wrote:Shouldn't it show on the character skill screen a +5 to guns for the racial?

Mine isn't displaying a +5 to guns.. is it a display bug or is it even giving me that extra hit?


It will not show as a green +5, but rather as a higher value denominator. 305 at level 60.
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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by wallan » Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:55 pm

Did Ony+MC with 308 gun skill and 6% hit, zero misses. Guess it isn't complete solid proof of the 6% hitcap, but it seems to work.
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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by panfornaio » Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:13 am

Isnt hakkar gun a decent one?
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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by wallan » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:23 am

panfornaio wrote:Isnt hakkar gun a decent one?

Not that great. Here you can see max potential dps with each rotation for almost every weapon:

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/forums/t ... breakdown/

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Re: How good is Dwarf +5 gun?

by Gazpy » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:20 pm

I had flawless rifle with DM wrists when it was cool and dandy, I never missed with 6% hit, now I'm trying out 8% and yes, it is quite noticable. Hakkar gun is like 'ok'ish and only if you are dwarf, it's not horrible neither it's good. On scaling Bad<->Great it's at Meh.
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