Just a quick question about those "bugs" i keep hearing.

[Wishyo]

Is it bad enough to make Ret pally unusable in raids?`

And pvp? Like, the good old Ret/Holy specc?

*Yesyesiknowretpallyraidingblahblah*

If its not really usable ill just join the masses of rogues again. So help me out!

[smilkovpetko]

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=25556

[Wishyo]

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=25556

Huh, thats quite a lot...I guess no seal dancing then on this server?



Duki, would you say is it worth it?
Just a Yes or no is actually enough for me. No need for going into details.

[Theloras]

Yes, it's doable - instead of Seal of Command, use Seal of the Crusader + Consecration instead.

Other than that, you need to be determined and have a thick skin to get through all of the loller bullshit.

If you haven't already, read through my guide for tips and tricks:

Theloras' Retribution Guide
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=34979

[smilkovpetko]

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=25556

Huh, thats quite a lot...I guess no seal dancing then on this server?



Duki, would you say is it worth it?
Just a Yes or no is actually enough for me. No need for going into details.

if you focus to preform you will out dps many , its good to use but only if you enjoy it.

Some questions can't be answered with yes or no.

Example : Did your mother knew you are gay? answer this with yes or no.

[Wishyo]

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=25556

Huh, thats quite a lot...I guess no seal dancing then on this server?



Duki, would you say is it worth it?
Just a Yes or no is actually enough for me. No need for going into details.

if you focus to preform you will out dps many , its good to use but only if you enjoy it.

Some questions can't be answered with yes or no.

Example : Did your mother knew you are gay? answer this with yes or no.

First of all, rude, second, i can be very committed to make something work and i would not ask the question if i think i would not enjoy it, just this whole talk about "most broken class" made me take a step back.

[Poli]

I'd say go for it. I used the 21/0/30 HolyRet spec in PvP and it works out alright, reckoning and shockadin spec also work. As for raids and PvE, you'll have to find a guild that will accept Pally dpsers. As the others have said though, you'll have to have a thick skin and suffer through the hate and skepticism about PvE Pally dps.

[JCarrill0]

I'd say go for it. I used the 21/0/30 HolyRet spec in PvP and it works out alright, reckoning and shockadin spec also work. As for raids and PvE, you'll have to find a guild that will accept Pally dpsers. As the others have said though, you'll have to have a thick skin and suffer through the hate and skepticism about PvE Pally dps.

don't a PvP paladin want precision? (requires 8 points into protection)

[smilkovpetko]

First of all, rude, second, i can be very committed to make something work and i would not ask the question if i think i would not enjoy it, just this whole talk about "most broken class" made me take a step back.

Sorry if i hurt your feelings , my intentions was made that i can't answer with yes or no , doesn't mean to be rude . But yeah if you don't like to play broken class then switch to another , i always welcome positive people and people that enjoy what they are playing.

Example is Thefishy and Theloras.

[Poli]

I'd say go for it. I used the 21/0/30 HolyRet spec in PvP and it works out alright, reckoning and shockadin spec also work. As for raids and PvE, you'll have to find a guild that will accept Pally dpsers. As the others have said though, you'll have to have a thick skin and suffer through the hate and skepticism about PvE Pally dps.

don't a PvP paladin want precision? (requires 8 points into protection)

I prefer a more hybrid and support playstyle with a 2 hander for pvp so i prefer having divine favor and illumination to toss out heals to others when needed in PvP. The precision talent should be suited to paladins who prefer a more aggressive playstyle such as deep ret or reckoning.