Theloras' Retribution Guide

Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Theloras » Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:53 pm

Xizt wrote:Man you guys can confuse people like real. So theoloras now says gear like a warrior and Holystrike and Duki say go for atleast 3700 Int on gear. haha


It depends on on two things:

1. Which Seal you use - Crusader or Command.
2. Whether your guild allows you to put up JotC or JoW

If you use Seal of the Crusader, you aren't Judging and recasting your Seal every 8 seconds - if you use Command, you are.

If you can put up JotC as a debuff (or can stack multiples of them), your holy dmg attacks do more dmg which make Command more attractive.

If you can only put up JoW, then you can put your mana into max rank Consecration instead and use Seal of the Crusader to DPS and regain mana from JoW.

You have to look at all the variables.
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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Xizt » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:00 pm

that is not really answering my question. you suggest a lot of warrior like gear and say to use it. holy and duki say dont use it and take gear with more int. that was what i was talking about not when to use which seal or when we are allowed to judge what
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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Theloras » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:09 pm

Xizt wrote:that is not really answering my question. you suggest a lot of warrior like gear and say to use it. holy and duki say dont use it and take gear with more int. that was what i was talking about not when to use which seal or when we are allowed to judge what


Look at it this way, they are technically Blizzlike correct - but the reality here on Nostalrius is that every single one of our Seals are bugged as FCUK - so I am trying to be as realistic as to the situation on the ground here as possible due to the following:

- bugs facing us
- LOLRET player mentalities
- current patch itemization (no spell dmg on any gear)

Similarly, I do go on to say the following in my itemization section:

"The guide below is one of progression, assuming that you have at least a few pieces of Lightforge and/or Valor to begin with and will allow you to mix and match depending on what stats you would prefer to maximize STR > Crit > Agi

While Lightforge is a decent overall set for Paladins to start out with, it will not get you far as you progress up the food chain damage wise, especially with the bugs affecting the spec as described earlier."
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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Theloras » Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:11 pm

FYI - in case you missed it...

@Smiter - now this is what I've been waiting for all this time - you made daddy proud!!!

#1 DPS on this entire guild Nefarian encounter:
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 61&Fight=7

:)
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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Theloras » Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:08 pm

To show that there's more than 1 way to play a Paladin - I've added Duki's spec/playtyle/gearset to the list as well:

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 45#p245245
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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by smilkovpetko » Tue Feb 16, 2016 10:57 pm

Theloras wrote:To show that there's more than 1 way to play a Paladin - I've added Duki's spec/playtyle/gearset to the list as well:

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 45#p245245


thanks you , i hope now people can choose whatever they decide and want to , my list missing some optional and some vial consumes but i think my mandatory list is clear.
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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Theloras » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:14 am

smilkovpetko wrote:
Theloras wrote:To show that there's more than 1 way to play a Paladin - I've added Duki's spec/playtyle/gearset to the list as well:

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 45#p245245


thanks you , i hope now people can choose whatever they decide and want to , my list missing some optional and some vial consumes but i think my mandatory list is clear.


That's the beauty of playing a Paladin - there's no one way to do it - find the way that works best for you and enjoy!
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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Theloras » Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:05 am

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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Theloras » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:43 am

pastebin wrote:PROVE with his REALMSTATS not imaginary numbers or screenshots from AQ20 pugs or Naxx40 screens from 2012 in a trash guild where people, like in Holystrike guild, have no idea what they are doing (Else he would be bottom dps, maybe slighty above hunters sometimes).


^^^was from the forum thread that got locked cuz Holystrike got butt hurt when I called him on being a douche^^^
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidO ... Raid=31232

#6 on total DPS in MC tonight with zero consumables other than 5x Combat Mana Potions and a few Blessed Sunfruits...all while using a level 59 2handed sword, Blade of Hanna:
http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer ... =Theoloras

We had ZG and Onyxia head buff until a bad Baron Geddon spawn and we wiped, but other than that, standard raid buffs only.

Top boss fight performance was #2 on Majordomo due to AoE:
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 2&Fight=11

But still came #3 on single target boss Golemag:
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 2&Fight=10

Oh, and I was 6th on total DPS, even though I hardly did any DPS on both Baron Geddon and Shazzrah cuz fuck melee on both those fights:
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 32&Fight=4

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 32&Fight=5

Some screenshots from tonight's raid:
http://imageshack.com/a/img921/3208/bBMdZH.jpg
- Majordomo

http://imageshack.com/a/img921/9181/5oVTLo.jpg
- Golemagg

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/1526/cWJD9m.jpg
- top DPS on all AoE packs

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/8439/zjIgAN.jpg
- 2940 Hammer of Wrath crit :)
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Re: Theloras' Retribution Guide

by Killstick » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:55 am

Theloras wrote:That's the beauty of playing a Paladin - there's no one way to do it - find the way that works best for you and enjoy!


Seems like its the best side and the uggliest side of being a paladin at the same time tbh.
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