More block value from talents then Warriors due to Shield Specialization and 10% Strength
(this contradict to his items where he favor other trinket than sapphiron for surviving (which sapp) trink gives tons of block value) .
Defense: Less chance you will be crit and also gives more mitigation. Crit cap is at 440. Don’t worry too much about getting the cap. It wont happen until you have half AQ40 gear
How he can Tank Bosses in AQ40 and BWL without Def Cap?
The EXTREME MINIMUM amount you will need.
Elixir of Greater Intellect x20 (25 Intellect)
Scroll of Intellect IV World Drop or Vender Cooldown. (16 Intellect).
Juju Guile Obtained from the repeatable quest "Wildkin E'ko" from Witch Doctor Mau'ari in Winterspring. (30 Intellect).
do you know that they wont stack up in server? (at least juju and scroll) with mage intellect
Flask of Distilled Wisdom x2 (If asked to heal these are nice to carry around).
this is not Tanking consume at all , neither you can Tank Boss with that.
You can set your Hearthstone to Goldshire and ask for a Summon to go retrieve a Darkmoon Faire Buff from Sayge.
Darkmoon is not always in Nostalrius either.
Libram of Hope
How is this better than Fervor for threats? when you could use Fervor for extra damage per swing.
Some of the comments
Drakon the first time I built threat on Lashlayer in our first raid I was 2nd threat behind you. (Without a Retribution Paladin).
Without Retribution Paladin on that Boss when i used Spell damage Weapon , i was topping warriors 2 times higher on Threats where DPS could full nuke and i would remain on Boss for 2-3 Mortal strikes before he manage to reduce my threats near Warriors.
I just remember the first time I saw myself on Lashlayer I was either 3rd or 2nd on KTM. People were actually surprised and some even whispered me about it. Of course for me to even be decent it takes a LOT more dedication then most classes, plus the fact that BWL+ I might NEED a Retribution Paladin for threat.
I don't even need Retribution in order to do Tons of threats at all.
I did BWL this weekend and I was 3rd aggro under the other 2 warrior tanks on Lashlayer but I held back a little bit so I would purposely be 3rd. Although this was with a Ret Paladin in the group. I have a LOT more control over my threat when I have one.
Although you realize in order for me to get aggro on Vael I am below until the 20% mark because then I can spam Hammer of Wrath for burst holy aggro. That short video was me by the end caught up under the warriors on a progression fight with a Retribution Paladin in the group. I don't think I could do that fight with our more current dps geared core.
You cant tank Satura because you need to taunt a lot.
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Battleguard_Sartura
Sartura and her adds will occasionally reset aggro for several seconds and start chasing random people for a duration of 5 seconds. After those 5 seconds they will return to the highest aggro target, so as long as you don't pull aggro off of the tank they will go back to him.
In MC I can literally tank everything except Shazz and Ragnaros.
I did those 2 are easy , when you use SP weapon , once shazz blink you just jor and it is instant taunt for you.
Ragnaros you start 1st , when warrior knockback using strong SP weapon with jor/sor you run to Boss and he will be on you (as his aggro apply only Melee and reset each knockback).
You can't tank Fankriss and let all the warriors use fury gear for more dps because Consecrate will aggro a snake and your dead. (Even attempting to tank Fankriss on a wall so only half of your Consecrate is close to a snake is sketchy and pointless)
Spell Damage Weapon - JoTC , SoR,Holy Shield,Retribution Aura,Sanctuary , you don't even need Consecration for This boss and Threats will remain extremely high.
You can only really tank 2 of the 3 bugs in Bug Trio
The strategy to beat Yauj is to tank her as far as you can from the main raid, 2 Priest Healers with Fear Ward on you , they soak the Fears so they don't overaggro you, with enough +SP you can retake boss with 1 simple JoR (while nobody else interfere with boss killing other adds and nobody else except you and 2x Dwarf Priests on that Boss soaking Fears while Bubble pre Fear on you and Fearwarding you).
Twins your gonna have to heal
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hp ... 0711_o.jpg
I cant tank Razuvious stuff because of Mana Burn instant K.O. or the fact I believe you need taunt.
Waste your mana before you engage Boss , take the add , build some aggro then use Holy Light to keep on wasting your mana , use SoR before Boss hit AoE mana burn and wait for mob to get released from CC , with 1 SoR swing using strong SP weapon aggro is your .
In Aq40 your right there isn't a lot and I have explained that in a previous post.
Here is him admit that he can't tank all Bosses in Aq40 , which is so wrong and he can do that easy , key remain - SP weapon
'Lyq',
I don't even think he could hold aggro on patch but I never saw a pally tanking in classic^^
mage or a fury could easy overaggro and without a taunt ..gg
I could hold aggro I just would have problems considering I could not spam Stoneshield pots. Also it would be easier to hold aggro in a progressing guild that just recently got him on farm. Although even then I maybe could with a Ret Paladin due to the buffed threat and undead target abilities.
Strongest SP weap with Sp Ench + SP Consumes = JotC + SoR = enjoy on extremely high threats while using Greater Stoneshield Potion .
Consecration, hammer of wrath, holy wrath and exorcism etc scale with attack power atm,
The reason Cystheen could manage doing Threats in Naxx , considering Consecration was doing minimum 80 damage/tick without any Ap/Sp in the Gear and would scale high with extra AP and SP.
'The_Wind', on 04 Dec 2012 - 6:20 PM, said:
Btw a tip for new paladin tanks.
Always judge SotC before using SoR, more holy damage -> more damage -> more aggro.
With consumables this action you are suggesting is usually a waste of mana considering your threat is fine anyway
How can JotC and SoR is wasting Mana when it prevents you from spamming Consecrations , which Consecrations are wasting mana .
with enough + SP using JotC and SoR you can go up 200 Holy damage per swing , where Consecration you will hardly achieve using Max rank (maximum)150 Holy damage in cost of extremely high amount of mana using , especially at long fights duration.
At the end of the day, Cystheen is good at Guides writing creative which i admit , but his Gearwise , Tankingwise doesn't suit properly on Boss Tanking , especially not on this server where people will never have mercy regarding Threats and Healing Tank.
(not using def cap in 40 mans in server and eating lot dmg by Boss in 40 man in Nostalrius will make you give extremely bad moral to Prot paladins as bad tanks which feed the trolls everyday) .
Cystheen and me are using different theory , same as JC which used his own different Theory either.
We all agree to disagree , people can choose whatever they want, they have alternatives but speaking of "what is better or worse" (where cystheen did start)
then there will be huge debate for that.I noticed you had alternatives and these items were in there as well I just wouldn't use your bis list
(all the quotes was Cystheen's comments)