Standing Farmers, I need your help

[weeezing]

Hello, I'm gonna try to cut myself short (for TL;DR skip to TL;DR or Really Long TL;DR), and I'm sorry if something similar has been posted already:

Everybody wants to rank up, and do so with as little time as possible since we all know it's a no-life project by now. I'm also in this boat (of course), and I'm trying to figure out what standings to aim for to not waste my time more than needed. I have confirmed how the ranking goes on on nost since people just love to spread rumors about how it's done (and I keep geting questions about how much honor points do I need for X rank etc).

To all the people who believe in rumors: I have been doing a bit of math and realized that the decay (you can ask me about the math ingame if you wish) does happen after you get your additional rank points per week (standing rank points included), http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/1010-honor-calculation/ tells you otherwise (read, 20% of A, on nost it's 20% of (A + B), where B also includes your RP gained from standing). Other than that the link (and the graph in it) seems pretty much on point.

TL:DR
The thing I'm about to do is simple, build a simple software to calculate rank points so you know how much honor you have to farm to achieve a certain rank in the end, provided you know whereabouts your amount of honor farmed each reset will be in standing.

What I need is data input. I need to know what amount of RP the standings actually give. I don't need you to do the math for me, all I need to know is 3 things: Your current RP, and your RP + standing after next reset (and your honor points farmed if it was less than 450k).
The one thing I know for certain is that standing 93 gives 1000 extra RP on top of the RP gained from honor points.

Really Long TL;DR:
If you want to help me help you, then please reply here with your last week's RP + honor farmed and your current RP + standing. I am only interested in standing 150 and better, as I believe there is no extra RP given out with a worse standing than that.

The script software will be available asap on github. Will be a short project written in python 2.7 and I plan to try to compile it to .exe aswell.

Thanks for your time.

[Penance]

sounds interesting, gl getting the necessary info, would love to see this in action

[Myskillkills]

You cant make a 100% working calculation, simple. We cant know exact amout of rp given on exact amount of honor, since playerbase every week is different. All we can try is to do approximate calculating, which is based on every week's update. Lets say, we have 5 weeks of updates. 1 week - standing 20 gives 11k rp. 2 week - standing 20 gives 10.5k rp, and so on. We can make average calculating, which will tell you how much honor you need to get certain standing to get certain rp to gain certain rank, what will be better and better calculated each week along with more people having this addon, so it will have more information to make calculations.
But it will never work 100%. After manyyy weeks, when 80% of people who is eager to get ranks will have this addon, it might work... 90%?

[Badromance]

To all the people who believe in rumors: I have been doing a bit of math and realized that the decay (you can ask me about the math ingame if you wish) does happen after you get your additional rank points per week (standing rank points included), http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/1010-honor-calculation/ tells you otherwise (read, 20% of A, on nost it's 20% of (A + B), where B also includes your RP gained from standing). Other than that the link (and the graph in it) seems pretty much on point.

the decay (you can ask me about the math ingame if you wish) does happen after you get your additional rank points per week (standing rank points included)

No, decay happens first and then your rp earned is added. Current rp*0,8+rp earned = new rp. If decay was after the addition then you wouldn't be able to get r14.

Example: Vurtne is 1 rp away from r14(=60000rp) and gets 13000 rp(This is the maximum amount of rp you can acquire per week)

Your way: (A + B) minus 20%: (59999+13000)*0,8=58399,2 rp.
Vurtne decays even with maximum rp earned.

The actual way A minus 20% plus B: 59999*0,8+13000=60999,2 rp
Vurtne gets his rank 14 and all the casuals will now expres their disdain for him on the forum.

http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/1010-honor-calculation/

Don't use this link please. If anyone is serious about ranking then please go read http://wowwiki.wikia.com/Honor_system_(pre-2.0_formulas) and if you don't get it then read it again.

NP

[weeezing]

Myskillkills: If same standing values recieve different amounts of RP from week to week depending on playerbase, then I agree this whole thing is futile.

Also, my plan is not to make an addon. I don't know lua syntax.

Badromance: You forget that vurtne would also earn rankpoints from standing. Not just the 13k from pure honor. But I appreciate your input.

Edit: Did read your link. It may have some sense to it. There might be no set standing gain values because of it because of the NR, I'll have to count more.

[Badromance]

Badromance: You forget that vurtne would also earn rankpoints from standing. Not just the 13k from pure honor. But I appreciate your input.

You do not gain seperate rank points from honor and from standing.


-Your standing determines what rank point bracket you are in.
Top 0.002 of playerbase: 12-13k
Top 0.007 of playerbase:11-12k
Top 0.017 of playerbase: 10-11k
etc.
These values change depending on if the server uses pre 1.12 or post 1.12 numbers. On feenix for example they use pre 1.12. Which are the number given above.

-Your honor determine how much rp you get within the bracket. It is a linear function between; the top of the bracket below you, to the highest in your own bracket.
-You cannot earn more than 13k a week, period.

[weeezing]

^ Should have read ur link before I posted (I tried but it looks broken (and I thought it was a bad joke) until I realized I had to add a ')' to it).

I guess my idea is flawed then. Too bad really, I'm gonna keep looking into numbers and see what I find, but for now this thread can be closed. At least I learned smth...