Win Trades breaking game for Solo pvpers (Lvl 60)

[BrockCage]

Hello all, this message is mainly aimed to the devs of the server. Win traders are breaking the game for pvpers, its impossible to get a fair fight. Normally i am not one to complain about stuff but this has gotten out of hand, heres how it happens.... 7-10 allys join AB as a premade group, then right as the battle starts they have someone out of battle q them for WSG, this causes the battle to start out 5 allys v 15 horde usually, the horde rush in 4 or 5 cap and the battle is over in a few minutes. It is extremely frustrating to join multiple battles like this in a row.

A simple solution to stop this exploiting of the q system is to make it to where you cant multi q battlegrounds..... If you leave AB to join WSG you should get 15 min deserter.

Id like to hear anyone elses thoughts on this or experiences. All i am asking for is some fair fights but i keep seeing the same players exploiting the q system and hopping from battle to battle until they find an easy win. IMO they should have their rank they worked so 'hard' on stripped away.

Oh and one more thing, i am joining battles 99% of the time solo, i do not like to premade, and i do not plan on finding premade groups before anyone suggests that. GG

[Simonich]

Why don't you do prema-... Nevermind

[iambrucewayne]

Pretty much nothing has changed for premades other than that they have to dodge a bit more often so they can get in games together. Pugs are still being rolled by full/nearly full premade groups. Pretty much back to square one.

[BrockCage]

The problem with premading like that all the time is its not very fun to just win every match with a 5 cap or dodge other premade groups. i think the q system needs a good looking at

[bouss]

The problem with premading like that all the time is its not very fun to just win every match with a 5 cap or dodge other premade groups. i think the q system needs a good looking at

90% of those who do pre-mades don't really care about fun. I never pre-made. Nothing fun in being soldier like and commanded to protect a flag 24/7. Fun is in random. In people not understanding. In people not fully cooperating. In a win or a loss that came out of nowhere. In good fights without pocket healers. In rogues trying to sneak attack a base not carefully protected or a flag run made by random class and not druid or mage. What is the fun in all working as intended? What is the value of a title and epics when you can't use them against real targets but on scared people that run away? What is the meaning of a title when one probably sucks in standalone, unorganised and random PvP?
When a game becomes either a job or an obsessive procedure to earn some purple pixels then it's not fun anymore.

[Guirssane]

The problem with premading like that all the time is its not very fun to just win every match with a 5 cap or dodge other premade groups. i think the q system needs a good looking at

90% of those who do pre-mades don't really care about fun. I never pre-made. Nothing fun in being soldier like and commanded to protect a flag 24/7. Fun is in random. In people not understanding. In people not fully cooperating. In a win or a loss that came out of nowhere. In good fights without pocket healers. In rogues trying to sneak attack a base not carefully protected or a flag run made by random class and not druid or mage. What is the fun in all working as intended? What is the value of a title and epics when you can't use them against real targets but on scared people that run away? What is the meaning of a title when one probably sucks in standalone, unorganised and random PvP?
When a game becomes either a job or an obsessive procedure to earn some purple pixels then it's not fun anymore.

tbh I agree, but see it like this, once those people will have r13 gear (r14 for the "lucky" one), they'll start playing for fun i guess

[bouss]

The problem with premading like that all the time is its not very fun to just win every match with a 5 cap or dodge other premade groups. i think the q system needs a good looking at

90% of those who do pre-mades don't really care about fun. I never pre-made. Nothing fun in being soldier like and commanded to protect a flag 24/7. Fun is in random. In people not understanding. In people not fully cooperating. In a win or a loss that came out of nowhere. In good fights without pocket healers. In rogues trying to sneak attack a base not carefully protected or a flag run made by random class and not druid or mage. What is the fun in all working as intended? What is the value of a title and epics when you can't use them against real targets but on scared people that run away? What is the meaning of a title when one probably sucks in standalone, unorganised and random PvP?
When a game becomes either a job or an obsessive procedure to earn some purple pixels then it's not fun anymore.

tbh I agree, but see it like this, once those people will have r13 gear (r14 for the "lucky" one), they'll start playing for fun i guess

Yesterday I played a game. From start someone was nagging about people not playing correctly and where are the healers and why someone who said that he will defend a base left and why this and why that. Someone popped the million dollar question to him. You do pre-mades right? He never answered but we all knew.
With that attitude it's better for them, their titles and their gear to stay on pre-mades.

[Guirssane]

Yesterday I played a game. From start someone was nagging about people not playing correctly and where are the healers and why someone who said that he will defend a base left and why this and why that. Someone popped the million dollar question to him. You do pre-mades right? He never answered but we all knew.
With that attitude it's better for them, their titles and their gear to stay on pre-mades.

it was one player, you can't say "this dude is like that, everybody that makes premade is like that"

[secondary]

Simple solution, if someone gets a Q pop, but does not take it he gets deserteur. Problem solved.