Vanilla Better Without Battlegrounds?

[stimz]

battlegrounds are fine, it was only a matter of time before people got geared and wpvp became lowbie stomping even at even levels. the problem i have is that the first months of vanilla was supposed to be a world pvp fuckfest but we skipped that phase entirely and the r14 grind started on day 1.

anyone who actually played vanilla knows that nost is not anywhere near the vanilla experience. although not being able to chain sap someone for 2 and a half hours is probably something i can live without.

[farrsa]

Battlegrounds are fine, problem within bgs is reward for winning is too big which results in people making premades and abusing it for easy ranking progress which makes pugs unable to rank properly.

Arenas in TBC were far more cancerous because they were a deathmatch type and basicly the whole idea behind them was to put FOTM classes/spec in one team and instakill enemy team in 2 minutes, to make it worse all top PvP gear was obtainable only through arena

To make it even more worse Blizzard didnt intend for arenas to be something permanent but they implemented them to be bandaid fix until they could make decent World PvP features in Outland which for some reason got delayed so everyone was stuck with broken permanent arenas.

You're a bit dim.

[Sharax]

Battlegrounds are fine, problem within bgs is reward for winning is too big which results in people making premades and abusing it for easy ranking progress which makes pugs unable to rank properly.

Arenas in TBC were far more cancerous because they were a deathmatch type and basicly the whole idea behind them was to put FOTM classes/spec in one team and instakill enemy team in 2 minutes, to make it worse all top PvP gear was obtainable only through arena

To make it even more worse Blizzard didnt intend for arenas to be something permanent but they implemented them to be bandaid fix until they could make decent World PvP features in Outland which for some reason got delayed so everyone was stuck with broken permanent arenas.

Reward for winning can never be too big. Without it, you get morons who ignore objectives and road/gy fight.

[Soyoen]

Don't blame the battlegrounds, blame the battlemasters in every HUB.