I want some fun real bgs games plz.

[farrsa]

someone needs to take a trip back to pandaria

[Forcerius]

Nobody wants competitive PVP, nobody.

That 60 rogue killing level 20's in Sun Rock all day yesterday (literally all day), he sure doesn't, nor do any gankers. Nobody wants a fair fight, they just wanna kill people in 1-3 hits and /laugh at them, because, skill?

Asking for people on the PvP server to try for "fun and competitive" games is like teaching rats about good sportsmanship, its a waste of time.

Why do you think there is literally 1 or more 60's ganking heavily in EVERY SINGLE CONTESTED ZONE? Because people who play on PvP servers are mostly scum.

I don't mind or care about people of opposing factions of similar level fighting it out, thats FUN...ganking should be punished though, its literally just being a scumbag and there is no positive value to it.

So russled. Here's some MMO wisdom: there will ALWAYS be imbalance, therefore, use it to your advantage, and don't get butthurt if you only want fair fights, because they don't exist. You're right that ganking takes more skill, but some people think its fun to win 100% of the time regardless of how good they are, while others prefer a challenge. And you won't stop gankers unless you're more powerful than them, so get leveling. Nothing is cheap except actual cheating, so use every game mechanic you can to win. #sirlin

[Zenn3k]

Nobody wants competitive PVP, nobody.

That 60 rogue killing level 20's in Sun Rock all day yesterday (literally all day), he sure doesn't, nor do any gankers. Nobody wants a fair fight, they just wanna kill people in 1-3 hits and /laugh at them, because, skill?

Asking for people on the PvP server to try for "fun and competitive" games is like teaching rats about good sportsmanship, its a waste of time.

Why do you think there is literally 1 or more 60's ganking heavily in EVERY SINGLE CONTESTED ZONE? Because people who play on PvP servers are mostly scum.

I don't mind or care about people of opposing factions of similar level fighting it out, thats FUN...ganking should be punished though, its literally just being a scumbag and there is no positive value to it.

So russled. Here's some MMO wisdom: there will ALWAYS be imbalance, therefore, use it to your advantage, and don't get butthurt if you only want fair fights, because they don't exist. You're right that ganking takes more skill, but some people think its fun to win 100% of the time regardless of how good they are, while others prefer a challenge. And you won't stop gankers unless you're more powerful than them, so get leveling. Nothing is cheap except actual cheating, so use every game mechanic you can to win. #sirlin

I found a far better solution, re-roll on PvE. I'd rather have no fighting than spend the next 30 levels being ganked all day.

There no point rolling anything but Rogue on PvP, not because rogues are OP (and duh, of course vanilla rogues are OP) but because of Stealth and the server draw distance. Just being a Rogue you can probably avoid 50-75% of the ganks other players would suffer. I MAY think it over and just re-roll to rogue (or maybe Druid, same stealth benefit), but fuck every other class on this broken server.

I'd also be willing to play on a fresh new PvP server that had no 60's on it, but until that happens, no thanks.

[twinkpvp]

Nobody wants competitive PVP, nobody.

That 60 rogue killing level 20's in Sun Rock all day yesterday (literally all day), he sure doesn't, nor do any gankers. Nobody wants a fair fight, they just wanna kill people in 1-3 hits and /laugh at them, because, skill?

Asking for people on the PvP server to try for "fun and competitive" games is like teaching rats about good sportsmanship, its a waste of time.

Why do you think there is literally 1 or more 60's ganking heavily in EVERY SINGLE CONTESTED ZONE? Because people who play on PvP servers are mostly scum.

I don't mind or care about people of opposing factions of similar level fighting it out, thats FUN...ganking should be punished though, its literally just being a scumbag and there is no positive value to it.

So russled. Here's some MMO wisdom: there will ALWAYS be imbalance, therefore, use it to your advantage, and don't get butthurt if you only want fair fights, because they don't exist. You're right that ganking takes more skill, but some people think its fun to win 100% of the time regardless of how good they are, while others prefer a challenge. And you won't stop gankers unless you're more powerful than them, so get leveling. Nothing is cheap except actual cheating, so use every game mechanic you can to win. #sirlin

That why i spend most of my time doing low lv bgs on my twinks and ganking on my rogue, lv 60 bgs is exclusive for super hardcore players... But i can still hope they make the queue system better for all...

[twinkpvp]

Nobody wants competitive PVP, nobody.

That 60 rogue killing level 20's in Sun Rock all day yesterday (literally all day), he sure doesn't, nor do any gankers. Nobody wants a fair fight, they just wanna kill people in 1-3 hits and /laugh at them, because, skill?

Asking for people on the PvP server to try for "fun and competitive" games is like teaching rats about good sportsmanship, its a waste of time.

Why do you think there is literally 1 or more 60's ganking heavily in EVERY SINGLE CONTESTED ZONE? Because people who play on PvP servers are mostly scum.

I don't mind or care about people of opposing factions of similar level fighting it out, thats FUN...ganking should be punished though, its literally just being a scumbag and there is no positive value to it.

So russled. Here's some MMO wisdom: there will ALWAYS be imbalance, therefore, use it to your advantage, and don't get butthurt if you only want fair fights, because they don't exist. You're right that ganking takes more skill, but some people think its fun to win 100% of the time regardless of how good they are, while others prefer a challenge. And you won't stop gankers unless you're more powerful than them, so get leveling. Nothing is cheap except actual cheating, so use every game mechanic you can to win. #sirlin

I found a far better solution, re-roll on PvE. I'd rather have no fighting than spend the next 30 levels being ganked all day.

There no point rolling anything but Rogue on PvP, not because rogues are OP (and duh, of course vanilla rogues are OP) but because of Stealth and the server draw distance. Just being a Rogue you can probably avoid 50-75% of the ganks other players would suffer. I MAY think it over and just re-roll to rogue (or maybe Druid, same stealth benefit), but fuck every other class on this broken server.

I'd also be willing to play on a fresh new PvP server that had no 60's on it, but until that happens, no thanks.

Try dwarf rogue like me, no human to see u in stealth and stoneform let u remove crap and restealth, having a way to clean dots make u even better on escaping gankers or the gank police

[Fubbzy]

I was assuming you were horde from that first post. Honestly i dont think the ally pug situation is bad at all. You can have fun games, and if your first game is bad, you have instant pops to another potential match. If youre really struggling against 5 man hordemades then just get some friends together, really. That is just how wow has and always will work, Coordination/communication>Comp>individual skill>gear.

[twinkpvp]

''That is just how wow has and always will work, Coordination/communication>Comp>individual skill>gear.''

The problem with premades is not team work, etc is fighting guys with far better gear+pocket healers, is like manking a full super twink team+healer and fighting a random group of guys on quest gear and thinking that fine and fun pvp

Im sure with enough healer and same gear for all, premades would never make this big of a impact, but gear gap here on vanilla is fucking huge and nobody heal on pugs, the way it works here premades complete destroy competicion, making games ''oneside rape afk and wait for it to be over'' games, good thing i have stealth

[Darkwinjax]

''That is just how wow has and always will work, Coordination/communication>Comp>individual skill>gear.''

The problem with premades is not team work, etc is fighting guys with far better gear+pocket healers, is like manking a full super twink team+healer and fighting a random group of guys on quest gear and thinking that fine and fun pvp

Im sure with enough healer and same gear for all, premades would never make this big of a impact, but gear gap here on vanilla is fucking huge and nobody heal on pugs, the way it works here premades complete destroy competicion, making games ''oneside rape afk and wait for it to be over'' games, good thing i have stealth

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noone cares , please go cry somewhere else

[twinkpvp]

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noone cares , please go cry somewhere else''

translation: We know u are right, we just dont fucking care we like things this way...