Nostalrius finally taking action against Wintraders

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ban

[Niko]

You are just making stuff up now. You assume they wintrade but all your so called proof are faulty. The only way they get a game in your are in a queue is if they didnt queued as a raid, which means they can't control who they face. And the speed of winning also doesn't show anything as even tho they might lose to pugs, it doesnt mean they dont 5-0 the majority of their games.

I'm still on the lookout for actual proofs of wintrading by them, pm me if you have info

people who only farm 5 man dungeons shouldn't open their autismo faceismo here.
son.

[Eligius]

You are just making stuff up now. You assume they wintrade but all your so called proof are faulty. The only way they get a game in your are in a queue is if they didnt queued as a raid, which means they can't control who they face. And the speed of winning also doesn't show anything as even tho they might lose to pugs, it doesnt mean they dont 5-0 the majority of their games.

I'm still on the lookout for actual proofs of wintrading by them, pm me if you have info

people who only farm 5 man dungeons shouldn't open their autismo faceismo here.
son.

please go ahead and explain me how I am wrong

[trorsmang]

You are not wrong wrong. The major underlying problem here is the social attitude of the players on this server and forums where everybody wants the swollen population down by any means necessary including the mass banning of players (like the Chinese witch hunt currently ongoing) whether 100% proved guilty or not, until it happens to them. They are self serving individuals only thinking about themselves and the lag they experience and think that denying others the experience of this server to help alleviate their lag problems so they can get back to farming is appropriate action to take. Like this dumb post for example but there are countless : http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34793

There was definitely win trading going on via empty games. I know because I qued into and got stuck in them on alliance side several times versus the chinese horde premade. However, I highly doubt everybody present was in on it. But since there would be no way to know which players exactly were behind it as they were probably using voice chat or some outside chat program and not in-game chat which would be logged and easily tracked, they just banned everybody there.

Mjl is a perfect example of someone who was falsely banned of win trading without evidence (other than circumstance) because he happened to be in that game. He wasn't even in their premade, he solo queued into it and still was banned. It sure seems like they are trigger happy with the ban hammer just to try and cull the population and righting their wrongs and unlocking the accounts of people who were mistakenly banned is clearly not high on their priority list with all the stuff going on plus high population being a problem anyways. So be it. I'm sure everybody here will be on board with this until they are victimized by it themselves then they will be in here singing the same sad tune.

inb4 salty - Yes I am mad for still being banned when I am clearly innocent, it reeeeeaaally sucks, and you would be salty too.

[Eligius]

Please trorsmang, explain me in details what makes you think that the alliance premade is more guilty that you are of wintrading?

[trorsmang]

wat? clearly english is not your first language. I never said I think the alliance premade is guilty. and I am not guilty of wintrading at all, nor have I been accused of it.

My whole point is about the attitude of the server because of its overpopulation. It creates a culture of toxic players that just want less other players around for their own benefit and don't care how they achieve that even if it involves injustices because all they see is -1 pop, which is good for them. Again, this is until it happens to them, then they will be throwing a fit on the boards like the rest of us.

[Niko]

You are just making stuff up now. You assume they wintrade but all your so called proof are faulty. The only way they get a game in your are in a queue is if they didnt queued as a raid, which means they can't control who they face. And the speed of winning also doesn't show anything as even tho they might lose to pugs, it doesnt mean they dont 5-0 the majority of their games.

I'm still on the lookout for actual proofs of wintrading by them, pm me if you have info

people who only farm 5 man dungeons shouldn't open their autismo faceismo here.
son.

please go ahead and explain me how I am wrong

ban the chinese

[Eligius]

I misread what you wrote sorry. FYI half of the bans were of innocent people so you and Mjl are not alone in your struggle.