Regarding Battlegrounds on Nostalrius

[Marcusius]

Wtf are you people talking about here. Alliance is the one with the defeatist attitude, all we have is ST/GM afkers, 60% mount ppl and noone ever gets BS in the start = lose. In Wsg the same shit. Allies basically lose i'd say 75% of all games or more. They even lose with a higher ranked ppl.

Horde doesn't have prems? Is that why when i was pugging, i run into prem after prem during AB and ESG weekend? Horde has more prems than allies and horde wins almost every pug bg.

Allies have less ppl queueing in general and most of them are pve clowns or casual pvpers. Just join a pug bg and look for yourself. Allies = bunch of rank 3-7s and horde = bunch of rank 8-11s.

[Marcusius]

^ Ignoring the constructive points for personal attacks. Boy have I seen that before.

Premades are fun, and currently an overwhelming waste of time for Horde. Have you been into AB or WSG at all in the past month? Are you one of them salty types that got farmed by his premade or one of them salty types that couldn't keep up with it?

I'm guessing probably neither so why are you here again?

If you want to play premades? Try rated BG's in retail or ask for wargames here where you can play other premades. Ask for tournaments. I see no one asking for that, because they do not want competitive pvp and bragging rights. They just want to crush poorly balanced (classes) pugs with premades. Now as far as retail RBG's? Enjoy the biggest scumbag community in the history of video games, most of whom cannot compete well in arena and are not even good at their class.

Example? See Bailamos on a subtlety rogue compared to someone like Pikaboo.

Getting a group with healers, mstrike, cross dispels vs a pug group without heals/cross dispels in Vanilla, literally proves nothing. It is LAUGHABLE listening to people argue about "skill" in vanilla WoW BG's. Unless you play a healer, or a druid in WSG? You literally do not matter one bit in a premade. Like I said. You could be replaced by a traffic cone playing your dps class in 99 percent of the games you log into.

About the only thing you could make a case for as far as skill in vanilla is dueling outside Org and depending on class/racial? There can be no skill involved in beating another. Orc stun resistance can lose you a duel. That is not skill, that is a roll of the dice.

Oh and when you clowns argue that premading vs pugs take skill, while CRYING that you do not have a huge gear edge? It makes it even more laughable. NO REAL PVP PLAYER WOULD EVER CRY ABOUT NOT HAVING A HUGE GEAR EDGE. Every glad, and top end arena player in WoW if ever asked would say it is stupid gear matters to begin with. They hate farming the gear, they hate the gearing process. When pve trinkets were required? They hated that to. Ever watch someone like Reckful try to level his character? HE GOT DRUNK, WAS BORED OUT OF HIS MIND AND PAID TO HAVE PEOPLE LEVEL THEM. That is why he no
longer has an account lol.

Seriously wtf are you people complaining about. You can grab the blue pvp set and have best in slot pretty much. Your rank 13 gear will be upgraded in the future. Eventually your rank 13 gear will be trash compared to naxx gear. Someone solo farming trash Naxx mobs on a couple frost mages and a rogue will eventually get the servo arm and absolutely crush you rogue/rogue. Heck you could solo farm trash mobs on a frost mage in vanilla. I know. I did it for a rogue friend lol.

That is why this crying over gear is so dumb anyways. If you are crying someone that did not do an INSANE grind and can beat you with both of you wearing pvp blues, because they are MORE SKILLED, than you have no right to ever use "skill" as an argument again. It just shows that there IS NO SKILL IN RANKING TO BEGIN WITH IN VANILLA WOW and that absolute sh$@$ers can get insanely good gear. Instead of having fun pvping and OUTSKILLING PEOPLE, they cry about being trash and needing a gear edge.

Fucking exactly. Pvp in classic = 0 skill. Ppl need to get real.