How do you kill someone that which has no life?

[Eulderink]

Isn't it an idea as horde to make pre-mades too?

I mean you don't have to be 24/7 online, just a mic and teamwork.
even with their better gear, synergy will own them.

just my 2 cents

[Goatmab]

solution to the current situation:
dont let groups to queue to battlegrounds.
pug vs pug always, and the better pug will win.
end of story.

Ridiculous

[NikeTheSword]

Its all super fun and all to play vanilla, but I regret lvling to 60 for pvp because all you run into is rank 13 premades facerolling their way over you since, well, they're premade. I know premading is "blizzlike", although on vanilla it wasnt to this ridiculous extent, but when they knowingly keep quedodging the other premades just to make life miserable for us "casuals" (read: actually leave the computer to take a shit once in a while) it isn't really making pvp a pleasant experience. Also, to quedodge they mustnt have someone on the other side telling them when to que, making them break the terms? I mean since these premade guys are literally online 24/7, shouldnt it be easy to find them, and how they exploit the bg system?

Anyways, QQ over, I'ma gonna go kill some poor suckers trying to lvl instead because of this broken system. Gotta get dat honor somehow right?

Alliance in world pvp are like some kind of endangered species since last week.
Horde acted like idiots farming lowbies( me included) but we were forced to when alliance refused to join BGs and now its getting harder and harder to find them.
It is time for admins to do something about this situation before PvP is totally fucked on Nost.
I suggest limiting the number of players allowed in que or stepping up AV release or something because its going to get worse every week.
Open to suggestions for how to make PvP better at high levels but you can't force alliance to join BGs so I really am not sure how to fix it.
this is the weirdest situation i have ever seen on a private server before and have no idea why alliance wont join BGs when they would probably have more healers/dispells than horde in every game...
does anyone have the numbers of how many allies are in que compared to horde at 60?

What PvE server did you play on?

Long horde que times =\= alliance aren't queing. Alliance PuGs face horde premades almost as much as horde pugs face alliance premades. Basically the best thing you guys can do is stop QQing because determined players using vanilla BG mechanics and spending a lot of time on the game does not mean they are exploiting.

++When horde players should have been getting started on organizing their own daily premades, they were busy camping FPs for lowbie alliance honor. Look at you guys now, starved for honor since the patch and there won't be any mercy. GG

Pretty much this. Leveling is a hell on the alliance side. I actually have a whole guild of friends on standby, waiting for guildies or struggling themselves to get to 60 so we could actually start doing some BG's. We will get to the 60 somehow, but meanwhile you get to wait and yes, it's your fault and now your problem also. Enjoy and hope the damn server doesn't die before that.

[Arise]

Pretty much this. Leveling is a hell on the alliance side. I actually have a whole guild of friends on standby, waiting for guildies or struggling themselves to get to 60 so we could actually start doing some BG's. We will get to the 60 somehow, but meanwhile you get to wait and yes, it's your fault and now your problem also. Enjoy and hope the damn server doesn't die before that.

I was not aware you could only do bg's at 60.

And especially 50-59 is suffering from a terrible lack of alliance in the queues.

[NikeTheSword]

I was not aware you could only do bg's at 60.

And especially 50-59 is suffering from a terrible lack of alliance in the queues.

Fair enough, but my group wants to do BG's at cap. Horde is whining that there's too long queues at cap.
My previous statement stands.

[milkribs4k]

I know premading is "blizzlike", although on vanilla it wasnt to this ridiculous extent

Yes it was.

There are different kinds of premades though, as WoW in 2004 was probably the most appealing MMO to play even for relatively casual players, while vanilla WoW today is one of the least appealing for such players you did not get this kind of instant graveyard camp premade nearly as often.

[nubi]

I know premading is "blizzlike", although on vanilla it wasnt to this ridiculous extent

Yes it was.

There are different kinds of premades though, as WoW in 2004 was probably the most appealing MMO to play even for relatively casual players, while vanilla WoW today is one of the least appealing for such players you did not get this kind of instant graveyard camp premade nearly as often.

casual scum, why so teary eyed?

suggestion; play the game

[Davyjones]

I know premading is "blizzlike", although on vanilla it wasnt to this ridiculous extent

Yes it was.

There are different kinds of premades though, as WoW in 2004 was probably the most appealing MMO to play even for relatively casual players, while vanilla WoW today is one of the least appealing for such players you did not get this kind of instant graveyard camp premade nearly as often.

On Deathwing eu I met the alliance ranker premade in at least half the ab games i joined.

[milkribs4k]

casual scum, why so teary eyed?

suggestion; play the game

most of us are playing the game, and having a lot of fun in the lvl 50+ leveling zones

On Deathwing eu I met the alliance ranker premade in at least half the ab games i joined.

Yes I played on Deathwing EU too and 50% of all games is a wet dream compared to this servers BGs, here it's very nearly all AB games and nearly all WSG games.

[Lyndis]

There is more horde players than alliance players at level 60 so :
- longer queue on horde side
- when bg pop, there is always more horde players than alliance players (don't know why, but it's like that).

So as alliance, you loose way more bg than you win, since always outnumbered.
Some people even afk and i can understand this.
Why try hard when you play 7v11 in AB ? It's not all the game like that, since the BG fill more and more, but the horde already have 700+ points and 3-4 bases when it's 15v15.

So ofc, to win BG, alliance is nearly " forced " to do premades.

Remember that horde is better for pvp with the racials and class. Just look in BG, everyone is Undead or Orc.
For that, most of the " pvpboyz " go horde, and ofc, rape / camp everyone in worldpvp.
Because of that, we can't really level fast, for the ones who doesn't stop because of this perma gank.
So ofc, there is less lvl 60 in alliance. Wait a little more to see more alliance players 60.

And for the premades, you can't stop this if " blizzlike ".