[H] Guide: How to win AV

Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by snawfu » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:54 pm

xemni wrote:Horrible strategy lol


Is true but the best way to gain exalted on dis server is either to lose to the alliance 10 min zerg (200 rep, 400 if u kill balinda) or do what I told and win sometimes (alot if people cooperate)
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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by xemni » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:06 pm

It WOULD be efficient, if we actually lost the games in 10 min. But we dont. They usually drag on and on and on, and if the game was played correctly from the start, we would of likely already have won. The only way losing for efficiency works, is if you're in a dedicated losing premade. Which you can't have in AV.

If the game didn't turn into a shit storm from an initial Zerg, the horde can have AV completed in like 30 - 40 mins, as apposed to a dragged out hour - 12 hour loss.
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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by snawfu » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:13 pm

xemni wrote:It WOULD be efficient, if we actually lost the games in 10 min. But we dont. They usually drag on and on and on, and if the game was played correctly from the start, we would of likely already have won. The only way losing for efficiency works, is if you're in a dedicated losing premade. Which you can't have in AV.

If the game didn't turn into a shit storm from an initial Zerg, the horde can have AV completed in like 30 - 40 mins, as apposed to a dragged out hour - 12 hour loss.

Almost all of my games up until exalted lasted about 20-40 minutes max. If they dragged on longer I GTFO and requeued.
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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by vathdaar » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:15 pm

exalted in 1 day as alliance, l2p hordies abusing vanndar pull, i hope you enjoy how we wipe you everytime due to being abuse shiters ;) ;) ;)
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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by xemni » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:19 pm

snawfu wrote:
xemni wrote:It WOULD be efficient, if we actually lost the games in 10 min. But we dont. They usually drag on and on and on, and if the game was played correctly from the start, we would of likely already have won. The only way losing for efficiency works, is if you're in a dedicated losing premade. Which you can't have in AV.

If the game didn't turn into a shit storm from an initial Zerg, the horde can have AV completed in like 30 - 40 mins, as apposed to a dragged out hour - 12 hour loss.

Almost all of my games up until exalted lasted about 20-40 minutes max. If they dragged on longer I GTFO and requeued.

Thats still not a 10 minuet Zerg, and that 20 - 40 minuets could of been devoted to a correct strategy which would put out a high probability for victory in the same amount of time you spent losing a fair portion of the games, or leaving and forgoing ALL of your rep for the game you were in.

Either way you look at it, the Zerg strategy sucks and is highly inefficient. You would of hit Exalted sooner, if not the same exact time at the least, from just playing it out the correct way.
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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by snawfu » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:37 pm

vathdaar wrote:exalted in 1 day as alliance, l2p hordies abusing vanndar pull, i hope you enjoy how we wipe you everytime due to being abuse shiters ;) ;) ;)

DAVJONES DAVJONES DAVJONES ))))

I hope you enjoy how zergwinning as alliance is easier by far.

))))
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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by snawfu » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:39 pm

bump for info
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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by snawfu » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:39 pm

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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by Drain » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:27 am

Except to skip Korrak, this is a guide that's going to help you get more loses than wins. Zerging north as Horde with no defense is exactly why you lose 4/5 or more of your matches. Unless you have an incredibly over geared/premade team, you will not and never beat Alliance at the zero defense race(How many loses will it take you to learn this?). You are banking on Alliance screwing up(and/or Horde over performing) more than anything else. Some of our wins are also due to exploiting an evade bug with Marshals. What are you going do after it's fixed, hmm? The Alliance were actually fighting ours, AND already winning in the race while doing it.

Best strategy is to actually have bout 10 people wall chokepoint next to IB. With slows/roots/etc, you can wipe the entire enemy raid between our towers while they get pummeled by the archers. It's a deathtrap of a bottleneck and it's the ONLY defendable position in which our towers can actually shoot Alliance with decent degrees. This is how you buy the time for Horde to take the enemy base. You will have forced them all to revive at SP, run down south(again), then try again to break through. After being wiped, they will try yet again to suicide run through or waste time fighting. Either is good. After they eventually do break through, you can stall even more at FW/RH graveyards. By the time they get set up in our base, Horde should have a nice lead with the aid station turning, at least the very least, SP turned red. If you don't bother to defend at all however, they will take our base in half the time you take theirs. The map is just rigged for Alliance offense in this way.

Wise up, and maybe we'll stop losing the vast majority of our matches. The teleport runes and trinket exists for a reason. Also, killing Balinda and taking SF are NOT bad ideas in a match that's dragging out. It's not. Stop trying to tell me it is. IT IS NOT.
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Re: [H] Guide: How to win AV

by Ohr » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:27 pm

I don't get what the fuss is all about. I played 5 AV's and horde won all of them, while i was running around like a headless chicken looking for Korrak, cause BiS xbow reward is more important than my faction winning. Was I just ridiculously lucky or isn't alliance capable of winning AV at all? Hearing all this QQ from horde and boasting from alliance left me puzzled when I can't lose AV even if i don't help the group whatsoeveer.
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