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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Drewbit » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:35 am

All the people that say to disable multi queue to fix the problem need to realize that the Nost staff already messed with the queue system and made it 10x worse. They just need to revert the changes back to VANILLA and stop adding custom shit.
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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Ana » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:19 pm

Drewbit wrote:All the people that say to disable multi queue to fix the problem need to realize that the Nost staff already messed with the queue system and made it 10x worse.


Probably because they did some stupid shit rather than disabling multiqueue.
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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Ohhgee » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:45 pm

For 11 years, wether on retail or pserv, Vanilla players have ALWAYS simply found the best method for farming Honor, and used that method to achieve their ranks.

On every server previously, that method was just plain old Premading. And on every server previously, people that don't have insane amounts of free time, or don't have a strong team, or can't afford to keep up with being a tryhard and spamming consumables whine and complain non stop about how unfair the system is. The Honor System is not supposed to be fair, and high ranks are DESIGNED to be something that only a handful of players achieve.

Nostalrius made the mistake of listening to the same people that have whined for 11 years, and attempted to create a system in which these whiners don't have to fight premades. However they failed to understand that people premaded because it was the best method for farming honor. By forcing premades to wait in long queues only to fight drawn out stalemate games against each other, Nostalrius basically killed that method of farming Honor.

So, of course, players have naturally found the new best method for farming Honor, and the results of this method can be seen in the 100's of empty Battlegrounds daily, the extremely low honor caps for both factions, the increasingly low number of lifetime kills required to reach high rank, and the completely broken PuG queues.

Please revert these changes before PvP dies on this server.
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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Rhoen » Tue Sep 01, 2015 4:06 pm

Ohhgee wrote:For 11 years, wether on retail or pserv, Vanilla players have ALWAYS simply found the best method for farming Honor, and used that method to achieve their ranks.

On every server previously, that method was just plain old Premading. And on every server previously, people that don't have insane amounts of free time, or don't have a strong team, or can't afford to keep up with being a tryhard and spamming consumables whine and complain non stop about how unfair the system is. The Honor System is not supposed to be fair, and high ranks are DESIGNED to be something that only a handful of players achieve.

Nostalrius made the mistake of listening to the same people that have whined for 11 years, and attempted to create a system in which these whiners don't have to fight premades. However they failed to understand that people premaded because it was the best method for farming honor. By forcing premades to wait in long queues only to fight drawn out stalemate games against each other, Nostalrius basically killed that method of farming Honor.

So, of course, players have naturally found the new best method for farming Honor, and the results of this method can be seen in the 100's of empty Battlegrounds daily, the extremely low honor caps for both factions, the increasingly low number of lifetime kills required to reach high rank, and the completely broken PuG queues.

Please revert these changes before PvP dies on this server.


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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Cortana » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:21 pm

While I don't care much about PvP , I support this thread . Please stop making non blizzlike changes to the vanilla content , thank you .
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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Healthycoww » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:45 pm

With the old queue system I could still get a top 30 standing with pure solo queue due to terrorizing WSG.

With this system I have the choice between choosing 130-ish honor per 5 minutes with solo queue WSG, or 2000 honor per 5 minutes with premade queue AB, Or I can premade queue WSG for about 2000 honor in 30-40 minutes (If faced with resistance.)

Now as a high rank which of these choices are you FORCED to choose to keep up with everyone else?

Go back to first in line queues. Yes... you're gonna get wrecked by premades... It's part of the game. But those premades will also have to fight each other. And sometimes you won't face a premade! And sometimes...sometimes those premades are really bad! Sometimes you wreck them with PuGs because you still start with a full 10 or 15.
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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Normander01 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:25 am

yesss healthycoww join more wsgs >:D
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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Ravni » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:48 am

I don't care at all about honor grinding -I just pvp occasionally for fun- but it used to be nice to be able to que for a wsg/ab with a friend and have a decent 10v10 game even if it was mostly against premades. Many of the premades were bad/uncoordinated enough to beat if the pug team followed directions and didn't have afkers.

With the new que system we basically have a 100% chance to enter in to a 2v10 or 3v10, which is not at all enjoyable so we don't even bother anymore. I prefer world pvp anyway, but it was at least nice to be able to play a good pickup wsg game once in a while. Please revert the changes.
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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by Moxey » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:19 pm

This is probably their masterplan for server stability.
Make a completely retarded pvp system and make people change servers.
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Re: ***** Revert the PvP Queue Changes Now *****

by absix » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:26 pm

wtf u think all of you, why i opened a post

viewtopic.php?f=46&t=17866

246 replies 5412 views , and nothing happened

gonna bump it anyway, since i see that the theme about this issue is still active
(why woudlnt it be active lol, the pvp turned into a fkin garbagehole since that hidden change)
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