Alternative to 17/34 spec for Mages?

[TheFishyOne]

Dark, when dealing with DoTs, I'm pretty sure Magic Attunement only decreases the total damage done, not damage per tick. Is that not the case? Also, if you take 3/3 Imp Blizz, you can no longer overwrite its short term slow with the much longer one from CoC.

Also, I moved a couple points around in that spec to pick up one rank in AF and EP each. Was under the impression that there was a bug with +spellhit, but the folks on the Mage forum don't seem to think so. This was, I can just pick up 1% from gear and be PvP hit capped @ 60.

[Darkwinjax]

Dark, when dealing with DoTs, I'm pretty sure Magic Attunement only decreases the total damage done, not damage per tick. Is that not the case? Also, if you take 3/3 Imp Blizz, you can no longer overwrite its short term slow with the much longer one from CoC.

Also, I moved a couple points around in that spec to pick up one rank in AF and EP each. Was under the impression that there was a bug with +spellhit, but the folks on the Mage forum don't seem to think so. This was, I can just pick up 1% from gear and be PvP hit capped @ 60.

I'm posting this from my experience playing mage in ED, yes dampen magic reduces the damage per tick, atleast on ED, I am not playing a mage on nostalrius and in that case I cannot tell you for sure.

I don't quite get the CoC reference? Like I said, main advantage of imp blizz is that it's undispelable. Also, the slow from imp blizz lasts 1 ~ or something seconds, assuming you are not casting blizzard in melee range (pls don't do dis) you have more than enough time to use CoC without it being overwriten by blizz.

I might be biased towards an elemental build, but that's only because after playing 2.4.3 and using the same 17/0/44 spec for a looong time, elemental always felt like a breeze of fresh air. However I do recommend every mage player to atleast get good at 17/0/34 before attempting other specs, like I said, a good mage won't be the one with most kills in the BG.

After you get into the gear-lvl where you can play elemental and you know how to play your class then go for it 4 sure .

I was never a big fan of the ignite / barrier build but it is true like Sylvant is saying, that the build is super strong and I remember some good mages in ED that ran it 24/7.

[Proctologist]

Aftershock and Tosicx blew me up a lot of times with that spec, Aftershock was more 50/50, but vs Tosicx I won maybe 20% of the duels
(aftershock played tosicx too when we dueled for my vid)
The gear level was identical however, but Tosicx had imp scorch which Aftershock didn't, ignite was doing 500+ per tick ;D!

[yxy]

Why do people never take improved fire blast over improved scorch?
Being able to fireblast every 6.5 seconds sounds so good to me

[Darkwinjax]

Why do people never take improved fire blast over improved scorch?
Being able to fireblast every 6.5 seconds sounds so good to me

the bonus % dmg is good but the real reason is that having a stackable debuff (imp scorch / winters chill) appliable with spells is very very good, it's the reason why killing warlock pet in 2.4.3 and 3.3.5 is viable tactic, fucks up priests dispels etc. If you gonna spec that far into fire there's no reason not to take it.

obviously taking winterschill on pvp spec in vanilla is retarded, so don't do that.

[yxy]

Can anyone confirm that impact does not work if you have frostbite?
I submitted a bug report here http://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2375
and they marked my report as invalid, claiming that it works fine.

[yxy]

Aftershock and Tosicx blew me up a lot of times with that spec, Aftershock was more 50/50, but vs Tosicx I won maybe 20% of the duels
(aftershock played tosicx too when we dueled for my vid)
The gear level was identical however, but Tosicx had imp scorch which Aftershock didn't, ignite was doing 500+ per tick ;D!

500+ per tick of ignite means a 2500+ crit, that's pretty high even for a pyroblast..

[Jurary]

Aftershock and Tosicx blew me up a lot of times with that spec, Aftershock was more 50/50, but vs Tosicx I won maybe 20% of the duels
(aftershock played tosicx too when we dueled for my vid)
The gear level was identical however, but Tosicx had imp scorch which Aftershock didn't, ignite was doing 500+ per tick ;D!

500+ per tick of ignite means a 2500+ crit, that's pretty high even for a pyroblast..

it's probably a scoch crit followed by a scorch/fb shatter crit.

[Proctologist]

Aftershock and Tosicx blew me up a lot of times with that spec, Aftershock was more 50/50, but vs Tosicx I won maybe 20% of the duels
(aftershock played tosicx too when we dueled for my vid)
The gear level was identical however, but Tosicx had imp scorch which Aftershock didn't, ignite was doing 500+ per tick ;D!

500+ per tick of ignite means a 2500+ crit, that's pretty high even for a pyroblast..

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer ... yer=Tosicx (we dueled pre-AQ)
Here's his gear, dueled him for pvp vid although Aftershock played Tosicx for the vid cuz real Tosicx was scared (u can utube his name for his pvp vid on ED)
500 ignite ticks, 5/5 imp scorch.
no pyroblast.

[yxy]

I'd like to watch the video but I don't seem to find it, do you have a link?