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[deathjester696]

After a few day's of the new Q'ing system my friends and I have seen a 90% alliance loss in all battlegrounds except AV. AV was about 50 % win ( and hope to god you don't get D/c'ed in the last 5 min's after playing for 3 hours and get that Lovely deserter mark ). Impossible to get any honor at all ( as alliance ) unless your sitting at your Computer 24/7 just afking in bg's. Even if you try to play 4 other people are not. Pointless to even try to play here as alliance. I do thank Nost for the free server but unfortunately alliance players will never get rank now as solo. All that wasted time. / wrist. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

First OP, you cannot blame Nos for this. PvP balance in vanilla is simply impossible, and I will tell you why. Alliance was horrible in vanilla. The problem on this server is everyone who loves pvp, rolled horde for the advantages (why wouldn't you). Funny thing? I bet over half the horde on Nos were Alliance in Vanilla. They have learned to play in 10 years on a game that was designed for 2 button mice and a keyboard (good job).

Classes that are literally pointless on Alliance for pvp. Healing priest, shadow priest, warlock, mage. Why? Grounding totem, earthshock, tremor totem and wotf and mostly purge.

Also a German Shepherd could play a enhance shaman as well as the "best" ret paladin. Alliance could only compete in vanilla stacking Hpals and warriors for freedom or premading vs pugs. If they are randomly pressing purge and auto swinging? They are worth more than all but the best geared rets. They are still a bad spec compared to elemental (once they get gear) who drops windfury totem and offheals, but that just makes it worse as it goes on.

For the record I knew all of this, knew population and queue times would be screwed and I rolled an alliance mage which is about the worst class I could pick. Having to deal with tons of my counter class (locks), grounding totem and purge? Is about the least fun thing I can think of. But whatever. I knew there would be a population problem.

Also, looking ahead? PVE realm will open, I bet HALF of the Alliance moves to it and Horde will have insanely long queue times, resort to "world pvp" against people 40 levels under them which further cuts into people that will level Alliance and this pvp realm will die as far as bg queues.

PvP balance is simply not possible in Vanilla. TBC? It is. Why? Cus Alliance at least had shammies and in arena perception (human) was really good on a rogue, so horde were slightly better in bg's but in arena against a rogue/stealth alliance was much better.

Also? I am gonna laugh when the pve realm ends up more popular. Most of the kids here who never succeeded at any real ranked play in WoW? Just do not get it. PVE players far outweigh PvP players in WoW. 40 percent of WoW's players are girls (per studies), they just don't talk to you because you are awkward.

Also there are probably 50,000 PvE people interested in playing a pve server with WoD being this bad as they wait for WoW legion. WoD is the worst expansion ever, by a large margin and there is literally nothing to do in it other than Arena and participation has never been lower.

[mousepad]

Actually I have 4 alliance on here..

A paladin 39, a hunter 39, a druid and a mage.

Yes horde orc stun thing is retarded but if alliance wasn't filled with inbreds they would do just fine. Most of the time I do just fine.

[Darkwinjax]

After a few day's of the new Q'ing system my friends and I have seen a 90% alliance loss in all battlegrounds except AV. AV was about 50 % win ( and hope to god you don't get D/c'ed in the last 5 min's after playing for 3 hours and get that Lovely deserter mark ). Impossible to get any honor at all ( as alliance ) unless your sitting at your Computer 24/7 just afking in bg's. Even if you try to play 4 other people are not. Pointless to even try to play here as alliance. I do thank Nost for the free server but unfortunately alliance players will never get rank now as solo. All that wasted time. / wrist. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

First OP, you cannot blame Nos for this. PvP balance in vanilla is simply impossible, and I will tell you why. Alliance was horrible in vanilla. The problem on this server is everyone who loves pvp, rolled horde for the advantages (why wouldn't you). Funny thing? I bet over half the horde on Nos were Alliance in Vanilla. They have learned to play in 10 years on a game that was designed for 2 button mice and a keyboard (good job).

Classes that are literally pointless on Alliance for pvp. Healing priest, shadow priest, warlock, mage. Why? Grounding totem, earthshock, tremor totem and wotf and mostly purge.

Also a German Shepherd could play a enhance shaman as well as the "best" ret paladin. Alliance could only compete in vanilla stacking Hpals and warriors for freedom or premading vs pugs. If they are randomly pressing purge and auto swinging? They are worth more than all but the best geared rets. They are still a bad spec compared to elemental (once they get gear) who drops windfury totem and offheals, but that just makes it worse as it goes on.

For the record I knew all of this, knew population and queue times would be screwed and I rolled an alliance mage which is about the worst class I could pick. Having to deal with tons of my counter class (locks), grounding totem and purge? Is about the least fun thing I can think of. But whatever. I knew there would be a population problem.

Also, looking ahead? PVE realm will open, I bet HALF of the Alliance moves to it and Horde will have insanely long queue times, resort to "world pvp" against people 40 levels under them which further cuts into people that will level Alliance and this pvp realm will die as far as bg queues.

PvP balance is simply not possible in Vanilla. TBC? It is. Why? Cus Alliance at least had shammies and in arena perception (human) was really good on a rogue, so horde were slightly better in bg's but in arena against a rogue/stealth alliance was much better.

Also? I am gonna laugh when the pve realm ends up more popular. Most of the kids here who never succeeded at any real ranked play in WoW? Just do not get it. PVE players far outweigh PvP players in WoW. 40 percent of WoW's players are girls (per studies), they just don't talk to you because you are awkward.

Also there are probably 50,000 PvE people interested in playing a pve server with WoD being this bad as they wait for WoW legion. WoD is the worst expansion ever, by a large margin and there is literally nothing to do in it other than Arena and participation has never been lower.

perception is still dogshit compared to WotF in 2.4.3, horde priest / rogue for example have insane advantage over alliance ones, same for rogue / druid etc.

this never stopped any good alliance rogue / druid or rogue / priest to reach glad ratings, not sure if I need to continue or you get the picture.

[deathjester696]

Never said alliance racials were great in TBC. I said it was a much more balanced game because alliance had shammies. Also yup, perception only really helped in a few comps (which is what I said) and most people just cheezed druid/x in stupidly long mana draining pillar 2v2 fests, which was THE bracket back then. I actually played mage/rogue and no I did not have perception but it would have been REALLY good in that comp. Why? Cus pillar chasing was boring AF.

BG's? Whoever had the most resto druids won in TBC to be honest. Resto druids were just broke AF. My warrior who I pved with mainly with Stunherald and a pocket resto druid was the most laughable @$%# ever in TBC. Unless you had a ton of resto druids cycloning you on the other side...

What am I getting at? WoW has never been balanced, and Vanilla was probably the worst balance it ever had. The OP needs to realize this and just accept it. Why? Cus even after Arena and them balancing around 3v3? The game still has a hard time being balanced and people still cry on the WoW retail forums 24/7. Oh yeah and because PVE changes mean more to the dev team than PVP changes. Cus money.... Simply more PVE player subs than PVP.

[Callous]

Best reason to roll alliance is to get the pleasure of beating wannabe vurtne pvp gods who in reality are below mediocre status.
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