Chinese and Wintraders new failproof r14 :^)

[Naulii]

If they got reported and are not banned, then they probably did nothing against the rules.

I guess you pvp boys are just hating on chinese players again.

Hey, apply as GM and make a change. The pvp server belives in you & your mighty evidence ))

[Religionless]

I don't know what to believe but when I play 22 WSG in a row (lvl 60 bracket, Horde) without any win I know something is going on.

PLOT TWIST: BLIZZARD OWNS NOSTALRIUS

[Brion]

I left r4 a while ago ))

First of all, why do you PvP "gods" permanently create Threads in the forum instead of actually reporting them ingame with evidence like this?

How do you think should they prove wintrading or account sharing?
Watch every player 24/7? They are volunteers and don't get paid.

13k players peak times, do you think they have nothing better or more important to do?

How many GM's are active or in the team at all, I guess like 10 active ones.

10 GM's for a player base of ~13k.

I'm sure they'd love to watch a premade playing PvP in empty games without having any evidence or names of actual wintrading premades.

Yes, ignore the status of PvP because of lack of "man power", keep this deficient and completly retarded queue system that benefits these people, IGNORE the reports made by players denouncing account sharers and wintraders, refuse to watch the queue patterns of said players etc.

You are fucking clueless, people already reported and asked GMs to investigate, people already DENOUNCED and PROVED that the blizzlike system leads to healthier PvP on the server.

The administration continuously ignores our attempts of dialog and suggestions, the reason is obvious, now gtfo since you obviously don't play PvP and are just here to shitpost.

I'm posting this on forums in the hopes that enough people who actually give a shit and aren't braindead mongoloids who just come here to talk shit to be in opposition will make enough noise that we can actually get a serious administration response about this issue (QUEUE SYSTEM and CHINESE WINTRADING / ACCOUNT SELLING / ACCOUNT SHARING INDUSTRY)

The problem is that your conclusions are forcing you to argue with yourself. The GMs need to ban the Chinese wintraders/account seller, but the GMs are also cashing in on it. How are the GMs supposed to resolve the problem that they supposedly endorse and are significantly profiting from?

[Darkwinjax]

I left r4 a while ago ))

First of all, why do you PvP "gods" permanently create Threads in the forum instead of actually reporting them ingame with evidence like this?

How do you think should they prove wintrading or account sharing?
Watch every player 24/7? They are volunteers and don't get paid.

13k players peak times, do you think they have nothing better or more important to do?

How many GM's are active or in the team at all, I guess like 10 active ones.

10 GM's for a player base of ~13k.

I'm sure they'd love to watch a premade playing PvP in empty games without having any evidence or names of actual wintrading premades.

Yes, ignore the status of PvP because of lack of "man power", keep this deficient and completly retarded queue system that benefits these people, IGNORE the reports made by players denouncing account sharers and wintraders, refuse to watch the queue patterns of said players etc.

You are fucking clueless, people already reported and asked GMs to investigate, people already DENOUNCED and PROVED that the blizzlike system leads to healthier PvP on the server.

The administration continuously ignores our attempts of dialog and suggestions, the reason is obvious, now gtfo since you obviously don't play PvP and are just here to shitpost.

I'm posting this on forums in the hopes that enough people who actually give a shit and aren't braindead mongoloids who just come here to talk shit to be in opposition will make enough noise that we can actually get a serious administration response about this issue (QUEUE SYSTEM and CHINESE WINTRADING / ACCOUNT SELLING / ACCOUNT SHARING INDUSTRY)

The problem is that your conclusions are forcing you to argue with yourself. The GMs need to ban the Chinese wintraders/account seller, but the GMs are also cashing in on it. How are the GMs supposed to resolve the problem that they supposedly endorse and are significantly profiting from?

I believe in the power of the people.

[Brion]

I believe in the power of the people.

That's admirable, but what do you think the people can do? If the administration really is in on it, your only option is to not play here.

[Ohhgee]

You're taking it a bit far suggesting that Nost is some how profiting from this, I don't see any reason to think that myself

But as for the wintrading, this is really nothing new, just a new method.

Ever since August when prem v.s. prem queue was implemented, PvP has been broken to some degree. Small changes have been made along the way (multi queue removal in October, and changes to what groups size you need to be considered a "premade") but there have been toxic results every time.

Wintrading went on for 6-7 weeks when multi queue was still in the game, NOBODY that did it was banned, and Nost's solution was to remove multi queue (the 2 factions were basically opening AB / WSG for each other).

As I have said 10000x, people will always find a way to get Honor as efficiently as possible. In this case, people are going to the extreme of ghosting to pop empty games.

The point is, the least exploitable system is Blizzlike Queues with no multi queue. With this system the best premade on each faction controls the top bracket, and you can't wintrade, dodge, or AFK to high standings.

[Darkwinjax]

I believe in the power of the people.

That's admirable, but what do you think the people can do? If the administration really is in on it, your only option is to not play here.

We should still denounce the reality of the PvP system, cause it's the right thing to do, the only option is to control the "chinese industry" and revert the queue to the original blizzlike system while maintaining the restriction to multi-queue in different bgs.

If enough attention is brought to this issue there will be a better chance for it to get fixed or atleast have something changed by the admnistration because the current PvP situation is bellow terrible.

[Sevvy]

It's funny, because I've had discussions about people who have bought gold/accounts, and are immediately banned. We've said that the reason the Nost staff knows to immediately ban them, is because they are the ones selling the gold/accounts to people. What a perfect system to make money and get rid of sketchy players.

I mean, it makes sense...

Also, SHA BI, Darkwinjax!

[Levinas]

Facebook conversation I had in August:

Well, we should play some time
Kinda miss PvP and just being bad


y
warsong pvp is sitll fun
server pop has declined severely

I figured
Vanilla people are a dying breed

nah
not really
but
but
new server opened

Emerald Dream?

with like 5-6k online
Nostalrius

Ah, a competitor then?

yea

Do they offer something special? Since people seems to have migrated?
Or was it just the fresh start?

dunno
its just a fresh server
but its worse

Kek

just high pop which is good

12x as well?

other than that, only dodgers in pvp only prevspug games, ask fest in bg
1x

So I will hereby conclude that Nostalrius BGs have always been shit, people have always dodged and Darkwinjax is retarded.

Thanks for your time.

[Kurise]

I don't believe in coincidences, I know that nost is keeping a share of the profits from these filthy chinese actions, PvP is a fucking joke and this queue system is it's killer.

Obviously any kind of account selling/trading is a big problem. But to imply that the Nostalrius people are involved with it is pretty funny.