Never played Vanilla, need suggestions on PvP healer.

[Snautz]

Worth mentioning is that while some healers overal feel stronger, there are no useless healers. And if you're skilled player you can do wonders with any class. I remember vanilla pvp movie where resto druid + warrior rekt zerg of 10 players who attacked them at once. Druid was just kiting them, shifting from snares and casting hots while moving, and warrior slowed whole bunch not letting them to reach druid. I doubt priest or paladin would survive 10 people on them.

Why didn't they just stop mindlessly zeroing the Druid and turn around to smack the warrior? Literally no one can survive a 10v2 unless you're up against 700ms clickers.
Druids are best off sticking to FCing

[stimz]

Worth mentioning is that while some healers overal feel stronger, there are no useless healers. And if you're skilled player you can do wonders with any class. I remember vanilla pvp movie where resto druid + warrior rekt zerg of 10 players who attacked them at once. Druid was just kiting them, shifting from snares and casting hots while moving, and warrior slowed whole bunch not letting them to reach druid. I doubt priest or paladin would survive 10 people on them.

Why didn't they just stop mindlessly zeroing the Druid and turn around to smack the warrior? Literally no one can survive a 10v2 unless you're up against 700ms clickers.
Druids are best off sticking to FCing

Well that and a shaman can purge a druid out of existence, pretty much indefinitely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRyEhIuO3BE also that, only found that about 2 weeks ago but it's now my all time favorite vanilla video just based on fight locations and odds.

"look at that scrub casting holy light" -every pally on nost

[Sham]

I disagree though, pally may have a high skill cap but it has a very low skill requirement, blessings dispels auras heals? Shaman has totem twisting(fast tremor and grounding usage is huge), purges, resist totems, shocks and the option (honestly requirement) of swapping between supporting team/purging to dropping big ass burst or turreting 2.0 cast 85.7% coefficient lightning bolts at near scorch speeds. Their playstyle is much more dynamic and therefore is harder. Pallies are single minded as support with a long CD single target dispellable, orcable, groundable stun for offense. Those were my most played toons in vanilla and that's just my opinion, but I did stick with shaman til r11. Shamans became much more single minded as expansions went on though.

Tbh I dont think that dropping tremor or grounding when you see someone gonna cc requires alot of skill. Paladin requires more awareness where to use his blessings.

Problem with shaman is if they also try to do damage, they oom very fast. I mained ele shammy in vanilla and had to use mana potions almost every fight. Besides they are very easy to train. Pally can stun/freedom/bubble self. Priest can fear. Druid can nature grasp/shapeshift away. What shammy can do when melees are sitting on him?

[stimz]

I disagree though, pally may have a high skill cap but it has a very low skill requirement, blessings dispels auras heals? Shaman has totem twisting(fast tremor and grounding usage is huge), purges, resist totems, shocks and the option (honestly requirement) of swapping between supporting team/purging to dropping big ass burst or turreting 2.0 cast 85.7% coefficient lightning bolts at near scorch speeds. Their playstyle is much more dynamic and therefore is harder. Pallies are single minded as support with a long CD single target dispellable, orcable, groundable stun for offense. Those were my most played toons in vanilla and that's just my opinion, but I did stick with shaman til r11. Shamans became much more single minded as expansions went on though.

Tbh I dont think that dropping tremor or grounding when you see someone gonna cc requires alot of skill. Paladin requires more awareness where to use his blessings.

Problem with shaman is if they also try to do damage, they oom very fast. I mained ele shammy in vanilla and had to use mana potions almost every fight. Besides they are very easy to train. Pally can stun/freedom/bubble self. Priest can fear. Druid can nature grasp/shapeshift away. What shammy can do when melees are sitting on him?

Wha? They oom if you are max rank shock spamming but turreting LBs was hilariously efficient at least in PvP. It's cheap and you have clearcast. Really though, the NS burst rotation with trinket is enough assist drop someone if you get it off. Having a shammy as your 2nd healer gave the threat of an additional ranged DPS with very high burst. Priest fear is a terrible peel vs good dispellers and completely useless vs tremor. Priest is in the same boat as shammy, with half the armor, but it works.

What shammy can do when melees are sitting on him?

not die cause they have a shitload of armor and are being xhealed, same as a purged pally.

True on druid though, but their skillcap is irrelevant when their whole spec can be purge/dispelled off themselves and their target and their only efficient heal after that is a 2.5-3s(talented of course) cast.

edit: making the assumption this is at least semi-premade scenario, cause who the fuck would wanna roll a healer to solo queue.

[Thatoneguy]

Besides they are very easy to train. Pally can stun/freedom/bubble self. Priest can fear. Druid can nature grasp/shapeshift away. What shammy can do when melees are sitting on him?

This is indeed an issue that Shamans have, it's hard to get away from melee once a Warrior places Hamstring on you. Shamans can rely on outside tools or their opponents being bad to get away. But then again, unlike all the other healers an ele-resto Shaman doesn't have to flee. Shamans can turn dangerously offensive even if they have a melee on them.

Now that I think about it, there's still quite a bit a Shaman can do. Placing your totems in such a way so that melee can't chase you & kill the totems at the same time can work out in your advantage. You can also walk 'the most efficient path' or mindgame to ensure that if your opponents make 1 slip-up you break free. Shamans can still do near everything in spite of having melee classes train them.

[stimz]

Besides they are very easy to train. Pally can stun/freedom/bubble self. Priest can fear. Druid can nature grasp/shapeshift away. What shammy can do when melees are sitting on him?

This is indeed an issue that Shamans have, it's hard to get away from melee. Shamans have to rely on outside tools or their opponents being bad. But then again, unlike all the other healers an Ele-resto Shaman doesn't have to flee. Shamans can turn dangerously offensive even if they have a melee on them.

There's still quite a bit you can do. Placing your totems in such a way that they can't chase you & kill the totems at the same time for example. You can also walk 'the most efficient path' to ensure that if your opponents make 1 slip-up you break free. Shamans can still do near everything in spite of having melee classes train them.

or warstomp one shot your aggressor after a few shocks to whittle them down, if you picked the less beardy and short second master race. shamans have very, very good coefficients and an op BWL trinket so they just get stronger with gear.

[farrsa]

I agree that shamans have a very high skill cap and and requrie a good amount of skill to even begin being useful, but the question was about a pvp healer, and a shaman is a sort of hybrid. Nevertheless a pro shaman is a huge asset to any premade

[Colezz]

edit: making the assumption this is at least semi-premade scenario, cause who the fuck would wanna roll a healer to solo queue.

some of us do!

[stimz]

edit: making the assumption this is at least semi-premade scenario, cause who the fuck would wanna roll a healer to solo queue.

some of us do!

even if uyou do if youre any good you'll end up with good players to support

[Sevvy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLvRKsIbOc&t=1m51s <- douja carried that fight btw

Wait. You're not Sickness, are you? I played with all those guys in Vanilla. Was in MisFits, raided with Relentless. Moved to Dethecus with that whole crew. o_O