PvP Honor System and Decay

[Sethzer]

What I wrote earlier + that honor difference between you and standing 1 do actually matter for the highest standings is whats correct.

First week there were around 50 people on each faction being r4 but st1 had around 40k honor. If wowwiki was correct then noone would even be close to r4 after week 1, but ye that didn't happen.

Also myself I had 569k last week with standing 13 and if the chart was correct then I would get 13000 RP since I'm over 450k, but I didn't. (I got about 11500 pts).

I'm just assuming that was because the honor system was broken the first week as low levels were exceeding the total rank they should be capable of getting. There's also the difference in population from retail servers versus this one.

Yeah, seeing as first week (or well week and a half) there was over 3000 players on alliance side with a standing (more than 15HKs) so that makes ranking alot easier. Most likely as much each week up to now aswell tho can't really see it due to the visual standing bug for people below a certain standing (already been reported to their bug tracker). Retail servers prolly didnt have that much less (guessing around 2k-2.2k people in the player pool each week) since they had almost same population, just spread with those sitting in queues rather than being ingame.
At this rate you can get more than 6-7 people getting rank14 at the same time if they align in the end, which is rather crazy. On retail the max amount of people on same faction getting r14 at the same time that I saw, was 3.

[Rylox]

Am I wrong here? Did I misunderstood the whole thing?

What I wrote earlier + that honor difference between you and standing 1 do actually matter for the highest standings is whats correct.

First week there were around 50 people on each faction being r4 but st1 had around 40k honor. If wowwiki was correct then noone would even be close to r4 after week 1, but ye that didn't happen.

Also myself I had 569k last week with standing 13 and if the chart was correct then I would get 13000 RP since I'm over 450k, but I didn't. (I got about 11500 pts).

Only standing 1 gets 13k RP
You adjust the graph to where the standing 1 is. IE a standing 1 of 900k (twice the graph) then 11k RP would be around 450k (half of standing 1) (like where 225k on the 450k graph is 11k RP)

[Youfie]

You adjust the graph to where the standing 1 is.

Oh.
Everything makes sense now .

[Sethzer]

You adjust the graph to where the standing 1 is. IE a standing 1 of 900k (twice the graph) then 11k RP would be around 450k (half of standing 1) (like where 225k on the 450k graph is 11k RP)

That would make more sense for sure

[trulygenericname]

That's still wrong. There should be essentially 13 different break points, based on standing percentile. For example, those in the top 0.3% will get 12,000-13,000 RP, regardless of how much honor earned or the difference in honor. So if top person is 2 million honor, and the person who just hit the 0.3% cutoff was 1,000 honor, he'd still get 12k.

[Youfie]

That's still wrong. There should be essentially 13 different break points, based on standing percentile. For example, those in the top 0.3% will get 12,000-13,000 RP, regardless of how much honor earned or the difference in honor. So if top person is 2 million honor, and the person who just hit the 0.3% cutoff was 1,000 honor, he'd still get 12k.

I don't exactly understand your example. Do you mean that several people, not only the first, can get 12k RP? Sure, basically everyone in the 0,3% get that amount of RP, if the total number of Ranked players is high enough to allow more than one player in that bracket.

Sorry if I didn't follow youcorrectly .

[Noxm]

Hey there, many guys are asking me how long it took me to hit Rank 14.
It´s a Question i can´t answer with like "2 Months" it´s not like i created my Char with the gole to hit 14.

So here a small review on my way to 14. I sadly don´t have a full screenshot chronocile of the amount of Honor i did to hit especially lower ranks.

The progress you will made in your Rank depends on: your current Rank, amount of honor you did (cap till Rank10 is 400k honor - if you do more you won´t recive more), (additional for Rank10+ standing, how far your away from standing 1)

I added few Standing 1 pics for the guys who are working on an exact progress calculator (glad it was me who had standing 1 most of the time - made it way easier ;P)

Dateformat: yyyy-mm-dd

R0: 2011-06-05


R2: 2011-11-08


R3: 2011-11-12


R4:
don´t have a screen of hitting R4.

R4-6: 2012-08-16
i was at the end of R4 skipped 5 and hit 6.


R7: 2012-08-26


R8: 2012-09-22


R9: 2012-09-26



R10.1: 2012-10-08


R10.9: 2012-10-25 Element:3,91% N1:86,42%



R11.4: 2012-10-28 N1:46,91%



R12.2: 2012-11-10 N1:17,06%



R12.7: 2012-11-18 Chargie:3,83% N1:74,34%



R13.2: 2012-12-01 N1:18,58%


R13.5: 2012-12-06 N1:55,46%



R13.8: 2012-12-09 N1:84,41%



R14.1: 2012-12-16 N1:6,18%





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Source : http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/39449-how-long-to-hit-r14how-much-honor-do-i-need-short-review/
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OFC its not the same for NOS cause we have more ppl standing due to population.

[Sethzer]

Can confirm now that chart do make sense, but that there is bracket breakpoints from what standing you have so even if you are very close to someone with high standing but that there is multiple standings inbetween, you cannot and you will not get close to the same RP.

[zyzolol]

... Retail servers prolly didnt have that much less (guessing around 2k-2.2k people in the player pool each week) since they had almost same population, just spread with those sitting in queues rather than being ingame.

Highly dependant on what server one played on and how active their PvP community was (e.g. Stormscale EU during it's glory days)

[Petroix]

OMG It's a black magic I don't understand a shit of this ;(

I had rank 0, no hk's no honor, nothing. I wanted R2 so I played BG's. Stopped at 259HK's and 1961 honor. I got rank 1.................. -_- WTF? How to calculate this I have no idea. Don't know if I have to farm BG's now for 7 days or 1 day will be enough. How much honor I need for R2, macro shows I have -510 rp wtf it's a black magic, I don't get it.