BG queue system issue, asking for administrator response

[Dohrr]

Why is this entire thread about attacking people giving you a different point of view?

Here's some valid points that all the people arguing FOR a revert back are conveniently ignoring: http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=17866&start=70#p114957

No one is saying to give out r14, increase exp rates - why do I see this keep being mentioned?

For all that spam about account sharing - why don't you just report them? People have already been banned for it.

And please get real: You guys aren't here for the exact 100% blizzlike things. You people only say it when it suits your current argument. (I wonder who was crying against mines in AV?, for faster mob respawn/resource nodes?). Were here for the pretty good server, amazing pop, devs actually working on the server and doing raid progression with our guilds.

[indianola]

Unreal amount of QQ in this thread, entitled gamers complaining they have to actually fight other premades now instead of AFK ranking like you normally do.

It's a free server man, if you don't like it theres always Kronos (lol).

[Eso]

Unreal amount of QQ in this thread, entitled gamers complaining they have to actually fight other premades now instead of AFK ranking like you normally do.

It's a free server man, if you don't like it theres always Kronos (lol).

I think you're missing the point you funserver baby.

[indianola]

Unreal amount of QQ in this thread, entitled gamers complaining they have to actually fight other premades now instead of AFK ranking like you normally do.

It's a free server man, if you don't like it theres always Kronos (lol).

I think you're missing the point you funserver baby.

Lol, oh no, they made a change to benefit 99% of the people @ level 60 who want to pvp, funserver!

[Letch2010]

Unreal amount of QQ in this thread, entitled gamers complaining they have to actually fight other premades now instead of AFK ranking like you normally do.

It's a free server man, if you don't like it theres always Kronos (lol).

Christ almighty... How stupid are you?

Let me redirect you to the majority of the thread that you failed to read and you'll realize it's nothing at all like what you said... Or maybe you won't because you're too fucking stupid.

[Volo]

logical adaptations after months of such a non sense of what was going on in battlegrounds.

might as well ressurect a bit of HL Pvp outdoor.

[Badromance]

You already put in 60hrs/week pvping so you will continue to be top 2% in honor gathering over the rest of the *peasants* that only play 10-20 hours a week. Why don't you just solo queue and if you are SO GOOD like all the 'top pvpers' claim they are, then you worth 2-3x the regular player in a pug, and you will help your team win mad easily, getting 75% of the honor you are getting at the moment.

In the ranking system you compete with your own faction and helping the competition win is detrimental to your own cause. That's why you find 10/15 other people who all share the same mindset of not overfarming each other.

Lets see what have you lost: You can't steamroll 3-5 bgs of pugs in a row (You win these without actually pvping....literally) And then on your 4th/6th BG you ended up queueing vs a premade, Which BOTH SIDES ATTEMPT TO DODGE. You CANNOT argue you don't go out of your way to dodge, because you need your maximum honor/hour which you aren't getting if you're actually pvping (wait wasn't acutally pvping your entire argument?). And then continue to grind another 3-5 bgs of pugs and the loop goes on.
I've had the hardcore premades dodge my pugs when we had too many rank 8's. I've had them dodge my casual premades. In fact, the only time there is actual premade vs premade is maybe 2 bgs a day at the end of your honor cycle on monday/tuesday. So you spend ~96% of your week grinding pugs, and not actually pvping.

I dunno if you play horde or alliance, but I know horde have longer queues so they que both bgs and they might rather enter the one that gives bonus honor.
Not every premade dodges. This wsg weekend I spent more time playing against premades than pugs and we still managed to get the our caps. We spent many hours fighting Gilgamesh and his mates and Goth/myroxx. Procto even streamed the entire thing.

What have you accomplished: You've practically killed off the pvp scene. On Emerald dream, a server of ~1000 pop online, we always had 2 WSGs going on at the same time without multiqueue. On this server of 5000-7000 online, you have 3 WSGs and 2 ABs, with multiqueue. All the people who pvp less than 20 hours a week, have slowly started disliking BGs.

On ED people also played in premades when ranking and there's way more than 3 wsgs up a the same time on nost.

When we solo queue for pvp though the BG system, we don't get PVP. We get graveyard camped for 30-45 (3-5x games + queuetime) minutes of games, then we finally get a pug and we can have actual PVP.
When we take your advice to "if you don't like getting graveyard camped all day, make your own premade and face us" so we make casual premades of people who want to PVP. We queue, we get a game, its your hardcore premade, nice! Time for actual PVP where we don't get graveyard camped but we provide actual competition and can have legit games! NOPE Your entire team leaves the bg to join another bg and we play against a pug. Then we queue again and you keep dodging us. So after a while, all were doing is graveyard camping the enemy pug adding to the problem, usually at that point I leave cause I wanted actual PVP and I never got it.

The people telling you to make your own premade to face them is not the samme people who dodge you.

What is the result of this change: A huge quality of life benefit for 98% of the server, a slight hindrance to 2% of the server.

117% of all statistics posted on the internet is made up on the spot.

[Jindo]

No offense, but having to pug because you can't premade against afk pugs, seems like me to be a more hardcore experience. Just saying, people crying about queue times are crying about casualization of nostalrius.

[Arev]

whether you agree with the change or not, this is something that should have been communicated to the players beforehand.

The fact that the admins would make a change of this magnitude without any warning or notice is absolutely pathetic.

[SupaflyIRL]

If you're horde, log in and single queue Arathi Basin and tell me if the fucked up matchmaking system solved your premade problems.