Remove Prem vs Prem Queue.

[BrockCage]

Vanilla system is for the biggest nolifers, skill has nothing to do with ranking. People here seem to think having skills means they need more efficient ranking. Wrong.

Go play arena.

yes sure why every casual scrub says this? i have never seen a GOOD player with less than 20k hks atleast, they can take them on AV or World PVP if they dont like 1v10 ab/wsg

ppl here with 1k or 2k hks are talking like they are pvpers, they are just casuals that play 2 bgs per day

go fuck off or if u are all so good teach me how to play pls show some "arena" vids

oh sry nobody even knows who u all are, not even on other servers


this shit happens in every game, good pvpers are kinda by definition 99% hardcore and thus play more, if u are in the 1% that "dont pvp cause is not fair" sry i dont believe u, u gotta pvp to be good, not sit in the forum crying

I don't think in all my WoW characters which achieved top arena rating I had any more than 20k hks in each.

were you dropped as a child )?

Excuse me what does anyone of this have to do with Nostalrius PVP? STFU with your e-peen measuring contest

[Darkwinjax]

There is nothing more to discuss, all arguments have already been laid down on each side and the pro current system already won since page 1.

Now we have these heroes who spent the last months in their room regurgitate their aspergers into the forums with posts like hks = skill lvl. All that's left to do is make fun of them as their brain refuses to accept reality, somehow some of them forged a delusion inside their "thickskull" (kek) that spending months of their life playing vanilla wow would give them efame.

[Healthycoww]

If it remains like this have fun getting your own rank 13.

No seriously. You have no efficient way of doing it anymore. You have to wade through the shit that is PuG battlegrounds.

I already have mine. I got it effortlessly. I played with a full group of friends way better than you.

Have fun getting your own group. Have fun getting your own rank

Oh wait, you won't. Because NONE OF YOU PVP

Would you rather run Molten Core with a guild that can clear it in 36 minutes, or would you rather take people that don't care about what the geddon bomb does that just want to run around and hit stuff, and when you get angry about him blowing up your raid everyone just smiles and says "THANK YOU FOR MAKING RAIDING FAIR."

[Vorfidus]

You call farming empty battlegrounds PvP? Isn't that something like Pv0?

[Darkwinjax]

If it remains like this have fun getting your own rank 13.

No seriously. You have no efficient way of doing it anymore. You have to wade through the shit that is PuG battlegrounds.

I already have mine. I got it effortlessly. I played with a full group of friends way better than you.

Have fun getting your own group.

"I already have mine. I got it effortlessly." Thanks for admiting the real reason you want the system to be reverted, for easy ranking.

"I played with a full group of friends way better than you." kek, I bet since everyone knows that hks and skill and directly proportional, I think vanilla manages to offer rejects and past failures the oportunity to be at the top just by wasting time.

"Have fun getting your own group." No, I believe I'll enjoy vanilla PvP for what it is instead of making it a pointless and worthless ratrace.

[Healthycoww]

You call farming empty battlegrounds PvP? Isn't that something like Pv0?

That was 3 weeks. You aren't a PvPer. You wouldn't even have a clue what it looked like before that

Again You don't pvp

I'd rather play with *MY* group of friends then see 7 people AFK at stables.
I am still in top 10 standing currently for this week under this system on Horde side. How did I get it? I'm running around randomly moonfire tagging people. Fun right? I'm playing like all you casual whiners running around and pewpew'ing people. I'd rather play a real game. I'm putting in the same amount of time to get my honor, just now I have to deal with you people.

But I fucking hate it. I can't play with my friends and the majority of games are full of PuGs running around being PuGs. It's not fun. You all for the most part, suck completely at the game, and I don't want to play with you.

Before you could mitigate the time you spent zombie grinding BGs by utilizing a skilled, ready-to-win group. Nobody could keep up with you because nobody else was winning (Again you all suck at the game for the most part) Gaining high honor values now, is simply about how much you "Defend" farm while writing rage posts on the forums. Just look at me. 250k so far and counting.

Anyone that isn't rank 13, *RIGHT NOW* just got shafted. That includes you guys if you ever decide to go for it. If you're too dense to realize that, maybe you shouldn't be posting here.

[Vorfidus]

You're right. I don't anymore. I got R7 before I gave up because of the broken ass queue system. I either had to find premades and farm empty BGs, or deal with elitist douchebags like you who think they're good for winning a 15v3 AB.

[Ana]

I want both the candy and the cake and they'll only let me have one! Booo! <sniff>

This is getting tiresome tbh

[Healthycoww]

Actually they gave me the candy and then smashed the dish. The candy should be free for everyone to obtain. Just like in AV where the people playing on the first day got free exalted, I got my free warlord.

Empty battlegrounds happened for a brief period of time due to alliance premades being COMPLETELY TERRIFIED of the Horde AB ranking group. Not the last AB weekend, but the weekend before we kicked everyone completely out of AB. 3, 4 or 5 cap nobody could stop us, we beat everything.

What happened next? They figured out that they could just open AB for us and take the warsong rather then fighting us. Since we required the most honor we could get out of the day we stayed where the bonus honor was (AB)

And thus wintrading was born.

They dodged us in the original system. They dodged us in the wintrade system, Now I can't even premade anymore so they're dodging us now.

I want to smash your alliance premades.

[Colezz]

You're all shit and I'm the best