Remove Prem vs Prem Queue.

[Ana]

I want to smash your alliance premades.

Then stop bitching about ranking and start playing premades.

[Healthycoww]

I want to smash your alliance premades.

Then stop bitching about ranking and start playing premades.

There's nobody in the premade vs premade queue and there never will be.
Clueless casual. You'd know that if you PvP'd

[Ana]

There will be if people stop bitching about ranking and start playing premades.
I know logic is hard, but please try ;/

[Healthycoww]

There will be if people stop bitching about ranking and start playing premades.
I know logic is hard, but please try ;/

They have to get honor to continue ranking, that means playing games not sitting in a queue for 2 hours.

Again you'd know that if you actually PvP'd

Just admit you have no idea how the PvP system works and are just getting high off trying to piss people off lol.

This system is a hell of a lot better then the wintrade garbage of the past 3 weeks. But they completely took away my ability to play with my friends excluding random luck.

[Ana]

Okay let me try a different approach.

They have to get honor to continue ranking

NO SHIT SHERLOCK.

Again you'd know that if you actually PvP'd

Yes I know this, Sherlock, and yes I actually pvp.

But they completely took away my ability to play with my friends excluding random luck.

No they didn't. Join as a premade to play with friends.

Inb4 "I can't farm honor in premades" - I will tell you a secret: nobody gives a shit. You're not entitled to be THE person the whole pvp/ranking system caters to. If you want to play with friends, stop bitching about ranking. If you want to rank, stop bitching about your inability to play with friends. I'm pretty sure this piece of wisdom has already been provided in this thread about 50 times. Get better glasses, your current ones clearly aren't sufficient for seeing basic points other people make.

[Proctologist]

You guys should find some lovely bottom boy and release your frustrations.

[Niko]

Forum pvp starting to reach same levels as of Warsong!

[Healthycoww]

Join as a premade to play with friends.

You don't get games if you do that.

-That is the entire problem with this system.-

You literally don't get games if you queue as a premade. It's not even about honor at that point.

-You do not have games start. It does not happen. You can not queue as a premade-

If you go park your 10 man group in the warsong queue, you sit there. First in line to wait for an enemy team to queue into you.
If you wait 2 hours and no team shows up, your game does not start. Because of this, there will NEVER be any teams sitting in the premade vs premade queues.

Because of the very NATURE of the vanilla ranking system, nobody will spend time waiting in queues if the solo queue is instant.

If you actually PvP'd you would know this. This game is about group play. Just like you can't solo queue Molten Core, you shouldn't be forced to ONLY solo queue in PvP.

[Brian]

i do have to agree with healthycow on this one.
atm as a premade you cant get any games.
and even if you did it was against the same ppl over and over again also.
i think the multiqueue disable is nice.
but they should disable the premade vs premade then now.
premades wil then also stil face eachother every now and then but atleast we wil be able to play some games also.

a good suggestion also would be that if premade queue's and you get no pop in 3-5mins then you get put up against next in line pug group.

i know maney puggers wont like this, but atm premades are gone they not happening with this change.

[Ana]

Meh. It's a catch 22 and it's easily solvable by arranging games / game times beforehand (use the forum, twink brackets have their threads, make your own). The only thing you need is enough players on both sides who ACTUALLY WANT to play prem vs prem, and not instead use the current pvp fix, for lack of a better word, as an excuse to whine about their inability to farm honor efficiently. I expect you should be able to build a playerbase of at least 50 people on each side.

Speaking of Molten Core, if I want to have a good run, I don't log in at a random time of the day and expect to instantly be given a quality pug or something.