A rankers view on this new system

[Glas]

3. You are not able to reach High Warlord without luck

Im sure u can reach high warlord, its not the amount of honor i think, its the standing and the amount of people in the standing.

So u can play as a pug get standing 1 with 3000 participants and get rank 14.

I must admit i had lots of fun playing AB and WSG which were balanced with max 1 marshal inside.

We had long balanced game.

[Jurary]

3. You are not able to reach High Warlord without luck

Im sure u can reach high warlord, its not the amount of honor i think, its the standing and the amount of people in the standing.

So u can play as a pug get standing 1 with 3000 participants and get rank 14.

I must admit i had lots of fun playing AB and WSG which were balanced with max 1 marshal inside.

We had long balanced game.

the less r11+ people you have in your team the bigger your chance is to win.

they are often unmotivated, unskilled afkers looking for easy wins without putting in any effort.

[stimz]

I don't see how people can care about one of the worst time based PvP systems ever. It became outdated one year after it was released, which was 10 years ago. Go do something fun in the game imo.

Besides, the inevitable endgame will be PvP geared players getting rekt by AQ40/Naxx geared players, just like real vanilla.

[Niko]

Now half realm and their mother is r11 and can't win a single wsg, stuck at 100k honor

cy@

i'm at 80k by playing 2hours the afternoon after uni, how can a "hardcore" r11 be stuck at 100k

^ see first post.

[Younie]

Besides, the inevitable endgame will be PvP geared players getting rekt by AQ40/Naxx geared players, just like real vanilla.

R13 priest gear stays super op for stam/armor FC set compared to naxx gear.

[Rik]

It is really fucking pretentious to say that it "serves everyone better".

It serves the casuals, and the people who like to stay on their own.
It punishes those who love to play with friends/steady team mates, those who put effort into organizing a team to be the best group out there and to beat the competition simply by being better.

The ongoing argument of empty bgs/dodging/wintrading has no relevance to this topic. It's a shitty behavior which was mainly induced by another shitty system (multi queue).
To fix a pvp community, you don't ban premading, you ban wintraders.

The argument "premaders can still premade for fun" is hilarious, too. Premades won't form freely anymore.
This system basically results in an attempt to abolish proper teamplay as the highest form of PvP.

But yeah, it's great multiqueue is finally gone. If you now remove this custom-made queue system, too, this server has great potential to be a Mecca of proper PvP.

[Sethzer]

http://imgur.com/tlOH4Ga
http://imgur.com/Nl6By5P

Female Troll Warrior

/respect

[Healthycoww]

I have to say I have respect for Jawohl in this even during the wintrading sessions he was one of the only ones with the drive to go out and actually fight people for our honor. And if you look at the standings he's winning quite dramatically.

Although I can never get WSG to pop when he's online and stomping it. =/

[Docholy]

It is really fucking pretentious to say that it "serves everyone better".

It serves the casuals, and the people who like to stay on their own.
It punishes those who love to play with friends/steady team mates, those who put effort into organizing a team to be the best group out there and to beat the competition simply by being better.

The ongoing argument of empty bgs/dodging/wintrading has no relevance to this topic. It's a shitty behavior which was mainly induced by another shitty system (multi queue).
To fix a pvp community, you don't ban premading, you ban wintraders.

The argument "premaders can still premade for fun" is hilarious, too. Premades won't form freely anymore.
This system basically results in an attempt to abolish proper teamplay as the highest form of PvP.

But yeah, it's great multiqueue is finally gone. If you now remove this custom-made queue system, too, this server has great potential to be a Mecca of proper PvP.

So premades vs premades only yeah? How does that ruin premades?

[Healthycoww]

So premades vs premades only yeah? How does that ruin premades?

Because of the way honor and decay works.

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Honor_sys ... ormulas%29