Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by stimz » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:41 am

Mryul wrote:what makes t3 paladins so great?

how is it to raid with paladin?


how is full t2 paladin in pvp compared to a more healing-focused geared one?


IMO t3 paladin doesn't really get anything special from the set bonuses, it's just at a point where your +healing and crit is so damn high that your healing becomes broken. Paladin scaling is pretty out of control since they get double the spell crit scaling from int that other casters get, get a full refund on a crit heal and have the most efficient heal in the game with the same scaling as flash healing. Tier 3 level pallies can get nearly 50% crit on heals if I recall.
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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by stimz » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:41 am

Younie wrote:outheal as pala? kappa
pala is good because you can't cc them and they have good extra buff
but they can't outheal anything sorry
it's a support class, not a healing class


You say that now
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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by yxy » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:53 am

Just pick whichever you think looks the coolest mate
I would pick paladin just because the full sets look so sick

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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by Winstons » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:02 am

Ihealwpvp wrote:in the end, healers in wow are force multipliers, not a force themselves.


This - the point is not which is 'better' (priest vs paladin), because that question can't be answered, but rather, how you play.
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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by Younie » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:24 am

Ok, detailled answer on palavspriest. Doesn't tell you which is better, but will help you decide based on gameplay.

PVE
If you're gonna have to PVE to get PVP gear, it's important to consider this aspect of the game. Would suck for you to be bored half of the time just to be able to pvp.
In PVE, there is absolutely no match: Priest are way funnier to play and also more efficient healign wise.
Whereas pala basicly just spam FoL besides having some bop to give away, priest need to use all his spells to shine.
So if you're going to play pala, the gearing up process may be boring af. While if you chose priest, you'll get to play the funniest and most challenging class to play PvE-wise (or well, close to tanks).


FC
Both pala and priest are able to be great FCs. As pala, your main problem will be caster and as priest it will be melees.
Priest can use the bottle of bof to tackle the melees problem.
Priest have mind vision allowing them to kite longer without having to face a single opponent as FC.
Against rogues, priest can't count on mind vision anymore.

Utility
Pala: bof / bop/ defensive dispel / hoj / poison dispel
Priest: shield / defensive dispel / offensive dispel / fear / silence / mana burn / MC / Mind Vision

Gameplay
Pala are great because they cannot be CC'd and are hard to burst down as melee. And they are hard to oom.
However, pala don't have "burst" heal. Their only tool is FoL which is a spell costing very few mana but healing for very few as well.
Priest have more tools and they are able to burst healing or to shield. They are however easier to burst down or to oom. They also need to LoS not to be CC'd contrary to pala (which is not easy on a server where half the los spot don't work).
Also, pala have to spend more time than priest casting rather than using instant. Because they don't have instant and a single cast isn't enough to heal up for full their target. This means they are more static and more easy to CS.
This also means that it's harder for them to actually help a constantly moving FC. Priest can do a lot in a few GCD, while pala can't reallly.
If you're FC is moving a lot, priest is dispelling 2debuff at a time, can shield, can renew. Pala can only BOF. And if you have just the time to cast a flash heal, priest can heal his target for full HP while pala can only give a few hp in that time.


Having a pala dispelling cc / boping / dispelling poison on a priest really makes said priest god mod.
But you can't expect a pala alone to outheal the way a priest can.
And a priest alone is easily locked down by a rogue or a cc spam or a viper sting spam
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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by Ihealwpvp » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:45 am

t3 pally also makes dispels heal, which is nice in pvp. also, pallies can heal with holy shock instant.

big plus for pally is the plate, healers have trouble with rogues. pallies not so much
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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by Ana » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:10 pm

Just a note, you people can probably stop talking about paladin T3 because it isn't arriving on this server for another year.
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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by Mryul » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:54 am

Ana wrote:Just a note, you people can probably stop talking about paladin T3 because it isn't arriving on this server for another year.


A good fit for when I hit 60 :)
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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by Hammersplat » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:50 am

Paladins get free mounts. if you make a priest ppl will complain if it's not a dwarf...
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Re: Better PvP healer, Paladin or Priest?

by stimz » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:13 am

Younie wrote:Pala are great because they cannot be CC'd and are hard to burst down as melee. And they are hard to oom.
However, pala don't have "burst" heal. Their only tool is FoL which is a spell costing very few mana but healing for very few as well.


Uhh, Holy Light? Especially DF + Holy Light. I'll give you that priests have more mobility while healing though. Holy Light efficiency only goes up with higher int and spell crit as well.
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