BGs are not fun

[Wildforce]

"Basically what you are saying is that there are people who are better than you ...".

That's an ugy thing to say. Are you assuming that because horde has 0 premades currently running for the past couple weeks that the entire ally pvp community is better than the horde? Do you really believe that? Or could it be because of the difference in pvp population and making a premade as horde would not be able to compete with the horde pugs due to the system?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that Wildforce is one of those "ally elite pro rankers" protecting what he is comfortable with (farming pugs). You have your viewpoint from the alliance faction and I have mine as horde. So I imagine you would be biased if you are in one of the ally premades. This is my only forum account. I made it because I was frustrated with the current BG system hence the name. I offered two scenarios that I feel would be better for the pvp community on this server.

I wrote However you must realize that the Horde / Alliance win-ratio differ from week to week depending on whom and how many that are currently ranking.

Currently there are more alliance premades than horde, this always change back and forth.
I can tell by the fact of your attitude towards "alliance" that we shouldnt even consider listening to your opinions

[FiveWeeksOneMinute]

There is no bandaid fix for this pvp system, its a poorly designed system that reward play time, not skill. The only way to fix it is by not being blizzlike in the first place.

This

Its a pvp system without any balance between classes.

Its a PvP system where the more you play the higher rank you get, instead the better you are the higher rank you get.

Its a pvp system where if you want to rank, you cant get a week off.

Its hasnt happened yet, but when more pve content is aviable, pvers backpedalers with great gear will defeat everyone, in their first Bg of their timeplay.

Its blizzlike system what is terribly wrong, but i think we all knew this. You cant fix what is broken to the core, you have to replace it, as TBC did.

What is funny is seing "rankers" or "premaders" calling themselves "better players" than others. Pvp skill will be measured when TBC server releases, rank only measures played time in a non balance between classes game where gear means almost everything.

>roll on Vanilla WoW server
>complain about Vanilla Wow

NOBODY IS HOLDING A GUN TO UR HEAD AND MAKING YOU PLAY THIS

GO PLAY A DIFFERENT GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME


ASDFDSFSDDFAFSFDAFS

[Mariehu]

"Basically what you are saying is that there are people who are better than you ...".

That's an ugy thing to say. Are you assuming that because horde has 0 premades currently running for the past couple weeks that the entire ally pvp community is better than the horde? Do you really believe that? Or could it be because of the difference in pvp population and making a premade as horde would not be able to compete with the horde pugs due to the system?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that Wildforce is one of those "ally elite pro rankers" protecting what he is comfortable with (farming pugs). You have your viewpoint from the alliance faction and I have mine as horde. So I imagine you would be biased if you are in one of the ally premades. This is my only forum account. I made it because I was frustrated with the current BG system hence the name. I offered two scenarios that I feel would be better for the pvp community on this server.

I wrote However you must realize that the Horde / Alliance win-ratio differ from week to week depending on whom and how many that are currently ranking.

Currently there are more alliance premades than horde, this always change back and forth.
I can tell by the fact of your attitude towards "alliance" that we shouldnt even consider listening to your opinions

There are no horde premades because there would be no honor in it! As a horde premade you would have shitty queue times aswell as ONLY face ally premades. It's really hard to rally ranking players into doing something that would give them way less honor / hour. Aswell as IF we would make a strong premade and beat the ally premade - the ally premade would stop queuing and the horde premade would sit in queue until another Ally premade formed.
All of the above would mean about 2k honor/hour or less. If anyone who soughts after a rank would play for 2k honor per hour, they wouldn't be able to compete with the pugs that can get 4-5k h/hr on minimum.

But I guess this will all change come WSG weekend, i know a few hordies that are gonna make sure there is really really low honor/h for ally premades in there.

[Niko]

There is no bandaid fix for this pvp system, its a poorly designed system that reward play time, not skill. The only way to fix it is by not being blizzlike in the first place.

Welp.

Also replying to comment above, alliances either start dodging hardcore if you beat them once or you get empty games. The chinese at least, open you games if it's during a bg weekend and you get to freefarm 350k in about 10hr, thus skill -> timesaver.

However, allies tend to queue dodge as fast as they get something up against them, queue times are kinda shit as horde. There's just too much warriors, rogues and enhancement shamans to get a proper setup going most of the time. Rip priests.