1v1 tier list

[Thatoneguy]

I get the distinct feeling that nobody in this thread plays a Shadow Priest.

[Shavronne]

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[twinkpvp]

U guys forget about gear, the pvp game changes a lot from blue gear to tier 3.
Players damage goes up way more than health, and pets damage/health dont, pluz manythings like stunlock works way better if everybody die super fast because of crazy damage.
A fight of 2 guys on blues is very very very different from a fight with 2 guys on uber tier 3 gear.

[Thatoneguy]

U guys forget about gear, the pvp game changes a lot from blue gear to tier 3.
Players damage goes up way more than health, and pets damage/health dont, pluz manythings like stunlock works way better if everybody die super fast because of crazy damage.
A fight of 2 guys on blues is very very very different from a fight with 2 guys on uber tier 3 gear.

Not really that different.

[twinkpvp]

''Not really that different.''


My point is that gear(both players using top gear or crap gear) change the balance of what classes are better on a duel.

CC/stun/seduce/etc works a lot better if guys are getting 2-3 shot because of gear...
Healing is a lot harder if the damage x health is lot higher...
Range dps can kill u so fast u got no time to get close...

Big damage help some classe a lot more, try playing on a fun server with free top gear, u gona see how crazy and fast is 1vs1 fights with top gear.

[twinkpvp]

I remember old lv 80-85 twinks, the damage vs health so freaking high , game so freaking crazy is like u got normal damage but your are fighting naked, guys just explode, range dps so freaking op, melee have no time to get close(dk could pull players and 1 shot u) and u cant realy heal that crazy burst.

Damage here keep getting bigger vs the health u gain from gear, that change the game a LOT.

[Thatoneguy]

My point is that gear(both players using top gear or crap gear) change the balance of what classes are better on a duel.

Not all that much. The 4 classes at the top: Rogue, Warlock, Priest and Mage stay at the top. The bottom class Warrior stays at the bottom.Think about it, what class goes from an absolute powerhouse to nothing? No class at all, the top dogs stay at the top.

Take Warriors as an example. We all believe that Warriors are the most gear dependent class in the entire game. And yet, they stay at the bottom. Gear changes very little if both parties upgrade in gear.

[Fubbzy]

My point is that gear(both players using top gear or crap gear) change the balance of what classes are better on a duel.

Not all that much. The 4 classes at the top: Rogue, Warlock, Priest and Mage stay at the top. The bottom class Warrior stays at the bottom.Think about it, what class goes from an absolute powerhouse to nothing? No class at all, the top dogs stay at the top.

Take Warriors as an example. We all believe that Warriors are the most gear dependent class in the entire game. And yet, they stay at the bottom. Gear changes very little if both parties upgrade in gear.

Hes right imo, a green/blue geared spriest beats a green/blue geared mage super easy, while a well geared mage has the potential to 1v1 a geared spriest.
I dont believe it changes a tier list all that much tho, just changes certain rock paper scissors matchups.

[twinkpvp]

A rogue vs warrior fight for exemple, basic the fight is about the rogue using stun+blind+etc to avoid the war hit him, if damage is crap the cc ends and the war can fight back and win, if the damage is a lot higher the rogue kill the warrior before the rogue lose control and have no more cds to avoid getting hit.

Gear dont increase in health the same way it increase in damage, this make cc a lot stronger, healing harder and so on, some classes want a long fight, other dont.

On a duel with top gear a rogue rape u before u get to react, with shit gear u got a long time to kite,fear,slow,get way,wait he get without cds and win, i think the tier list changes a lot from blue gear to tier 3.

And dont forget about pets, the better the gear gets the easier is to kill the pet and the lower is the pet damage, things like that can make a huge diference.

[stimz]

or when ele shams start doing 4k+ burst in a warstomp, that changes a few matchups just a little.

spriest power pretty much plateaus at r13 gear with a damage trinket.

if anything rogues get weaker as gear improves, it doesnt help them any outside of highlight vids when they fail to vanish the dc and are already dead by the time it ends, same vs spriest with blackout. doesnt help that vanilla rogues cant trinket the hard ccs that kill them.

never forget real vanilla t3 dots, ticking 500+. hp in t3 gear was high 4k low 5k if i recall.

but really who cares about 1v1(although ele and lock 1v1 power translates direcly to group and mass pvp)pre tbc, get a warrior priest and ele sham trio and 3vx the world