12,000 people online, 45 min wsg queue

[Slicy]

@Pottu : "player demand" = Couple carebears QQed in few forum threads about getting stomped by premades 1 game out of 3-4-5 or even more. Then queue system was changed for them.

The current one is awful for every generation of rankers since months (hence why these kind of threads about queue system keep coming up regularly with variable degrees of quality, you gotta experience it to understand it I guess) for both sides ; on top of enabling abuses which are considered bannable offenses and creating an awful atmosphere that every "bracket leader" since couple months would tell you about if they cared about something else than just getting their rank.

When the only way to get honor if you're going high rank on WSG week is to 5 man queue with snipers, you know that the system is not close to what it should be, at all.

Right now this queue system is "good" for couple pugs on alliance side happy to get instant pops and lose every game they don't even try to win/just afk from start to end. If this is the playerbase you want to satisfy, I guess the others will just go elsewhere/do something else.
Its complete garbage for rankers on both sides, for all horde puggers as said by OP, and for the vast majority of alliance puggers with half a brain who can't be arsed premading/playing with 5 afkers/leechers every single game.

[snawfu]

To establish demand, could the staff make a poll that asked the community how many people would like for pvp system to change. (obviously it's problematic coz you'd get people voting who haven't even stepped into a BG.)

tbh i personally dont care that much since im done with pvp here and im over on the other server when I want to play for "fun" but this could be a way for you guys to prove you care about your player base that have to deal with this every day.

[Lection]

@Pottu : "player demand" = Couple carebears QQed in few forum threads about getting stomped by premades 1 game out of 3-4-5 or even more. Then queue system was changed for them.

The current one is awful for every generation of rankers since months (hence why these kind of threads about queue system keep coming up regularly with variable degrees of quality, you gotta experience it to understand it I guess) for both sides ; on top of enabling abuses which are considered bannable offenses and creating an awful atmosphere that every "bracket leader" since couple months would tell you about if they cared about something else than just getting their rank.

When the only way to get honor if you're going high rank on WSG week is to 5 man queue with snipers, you know that the system is not close to what it should be, at all.

Right now this queue system is "good" for couple pugs on alliance side happy to get instant pops and lose every game they don't even try to win/just afk from start to end. If this is the playerbase you want to satisfy, I guess the others will just go elsewhere/do something else.
Its complete garbage for rankers on both sides, for all horde puggers as said by OP, and for the vast majority of alliance puggers with half a brain who can't be arsed premading/playing with 5 afkers/leechers every single game.

I like how "rankers" seem to think they are the majority and the server should cater to them over the real majority. 1 game of out 3? Try 1 game out of 5 that it's not a premade you're facing when solo queueing.

[Healthycoww]

I like how "rankers" seem to think they are the majority and the server should cater to them over the real majority. 1 game of out 3? Try 1 game out of 5 that it's not a premade you're facing when solo queueing.

So the obvious solution should be that you shouldn't be solo queueing instead of whining about premades.

[Lection]

That's easier said than done...

Want to do a couple BGs before going to bed at night, have fun spending half your time trying to find/form a premade. Solo queue was always a viable option in vanilla and it should be here if you want the game to be "blizzlike". Not everyone should have to be a no life ranker to be able to enjoy BGs.

[Slicy]

I like how "rankers" seem to think they are the majority and the server should cater to them over the real majority. 1 game of out 3? Try 1 game out of 5 that it's not a premade you're facing when solo queueing.

Groups of rankers over several months and still playing here are indeed more important that the minority of afkers/carebears leaving the server after 1 month once they realize they can't get further into anything.

have fun spending half your time trying to find/form a premade.

This. You get what you deserve if you queue solo, aka bad games every now and then. If you can't deal with it, it's your problem, not a problem coming from premades who have to wait 5+ mins in queue even though they also bother making groups etc like u said.
My point was that ppl QQed when they got to face 1 game against a premade every 3 or more games, which is perfectly fine since you're crippling yourself from the start by going solo (and was like that during retail as well).
I've probably solo queued more than you on here and I can tell you those who were complaining back then were just lazy faggets who couldn't be asked playing as they should.

Solo queue was always a viable option in vanilla and it should be here if you want the game to be "blizzlike". Not everyone should have to be a no life ranker to be able to enjoy BGs.

Solo queue is viable here on alliance if you can play +20hrs/day. It's not on horde I guess ?

[Healthycoww]

Want to do a couple BGs before going to bed at night, have fun spending half your time trying to find/form a premade..

Typing "/g Who wants to warsong?" usually gets me around 5 people in about 5 minutes. Stop being so anti-social.

[Soyoen]

Take your picks from the list below, can you spot the serious proposals?

1) Remove the option to queue in groups.
2) Remove the option to multiqueue.
3) Increase deserter debuff to 1 hour.
4) Cut bonus honor from battlegrounds by 33,33%.
5) Remove all marks & turnin NPCs.
6) 7day ban anyone not speaking english in /bg & /s within bgs, the whole bg is a public channel during its duration.
7) Reduce HK entry level to 1, thus increasing the player pool.
8) Permban suspicious dodgers & wintraders without chance to appeal. There's so many players you don't need to care. This is the macro you can use in the support forum:

We regret to inform you that your account has been suspended from further use. Our closely monitored investigation sadly confirms your actions and we advice you to reconsider your actions by creating a new account, although this time by following our terms of use.

Shoutout to WILDDADDY

[Ohhgee]

The custom queue system was implemented because of player demand.

LOL

Demand from people who had little to no experience with Vanilla prior to Nostalrius, and have no idea how the Honor system is designed to function. This was a change brought on by suggestions from clueless people and it was clear within WEEKS that it had toxic side effects.

[alex85eu]

blame the chinese for this situation and the retarded que system . With 12k + online the game is unplayable due to the insane lag. As allies you join any bg a third of the players are always afking mostly chinese and the ones that do play mostly cant communicate so in short you have to be crazy to play this game solo que as allie.