BG queue system issue, asking for administrator response

[Lorilay]

I'd love to do more WSG and AB, but I only play when there's people to play

[yxy]

about 15 2v15 in a row today so far

[Ohr]

26 Pages and I'm still

[Ohhgee]

Now entering week #4 of Battlegrounds being completely unplayable, and still no response at all from staff. Whether you solo queue or premade queue, every game is decided before the gates even open, and most games are just one team against a clock.

Absolutely ZERO positive results have come from the changes that were made to BG queues 4-5 weeks ago. Before the changes, you had a handful of casual players that lack an understanding of the spirit of Vanilla who whined about being farmed by preamades. Now, after the changes, EVERYONE is whining about how bad PvP is.

By making changes to appease the whining of casuals, all you've done is swap a handful of shitters being unhappy for the entire PvP community being unhappy. I'm the the type of player that is going to wait around and stick things out pretty much no matter what, but if the quality of the PvP experience continues to be how it has the past few weeks, you're going to start losing players.

Please Nostalrius staff at least acknowledge that you made changes, and that those changes have caused problems.

[Aklol]

stop complaining. it's a FREE server. you aren't paying ANYTHING to be here. you are NOT allowed to criticize.

[PhilipRed]

You say, is staff fault for changing queues.

I say, still premades fault.

If Premades dont exist (not able to join as group) or they fight against each other exclusively, some players might left, but not real pvpers, just honor farmers and angry kids.

If premades dont exist all pugs will get back their pvp, everybody will rank better not needing incredible ammounts of honor.

If premades dont exist ppl will effort in winning Bgs, will use tactics, good players will be known for their skills instead of their huge time to farm honor.

Only argument for premaders is, premades are blizzlike. What doesnt mean it is good or fair or whatever, is just what blizzard did 10 years ago.

If you kill premades, you will revitalize pvp, all BGs, ppl with jobs/family/other hobbies will go back to pvp and maybe to rank a bit.

If you kill premades, all this anger about stupid Bgs will disapear, because everybody will have to fight for their honor. And they will enjoy it probably.

Maybe even some premaders re-discover the fun of pvp after weeks of honor farming.

Premades are just a perversion of pvp spirit, they rape pvp, they destroy others fun for their own benefit.

Premades are simply the core of the problem, as simple as that.

I suggest that pvp groups only fight against other pvp groups, not disabling the option of joining as a premade, bacause as a many years premader miself ( not in vanilla) fighting other group is really great fun.
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Developers really need to re-think the full concept of blizzlike.

Blizzard itself changed a lot of things along the years, some of them made game easier (group finder) some of them were just progression (new Dungeons), but some of them were just wrong.

I would say the whole rank sistem of vanilla is a bit stupid because is not skill based, is time based, what has no sense. Blizzard changed it and never get back to it... and if you really think what was the wrongest thing of it, what corrupted it, what make a majority unhappy and few happy... yeah, that was the premades fighting PuGs.

So dont blame developers, problems is still, and will always will be Premades.

[juyudao]

hey cheaters don’t need pug players at all, they can win in 5 min when 15 v 0 or 10 v 0, it is obviously a cheat behavior and banable in retail, but it seems allowable in Nostalrius. So, firstly, only Chinese cheats via win-trading, now every premades win-trading

[diogenes]

Before the changes, you had a handful of casual players that lack an understanding of the spirit of Vanilla who whined about being farmed by preamades.

The awesome thing about this complaint is that now its even worse for pugs. When you queue as a premade 95% of the time its 4-5 pugs on the other team simply because horde premades queue for both battlegrounds, and ally always dodge to wsg and horde always dodge to ab, resulting in pugs joining after the game has started and just getting rofl stomped.

This means that you dont even need to have a good premade. Fuck your comp. Just get people together to go face roll the opposition by having twice the amount of players.

Its terrible. Yea, vanilla honor system has always been about farming a lot of honor, but now, you dont really even have to pvp. People are getting hundreds of housands of honor with less than 1k hks simply because there arent any players on the otherside when playing a premade.

This is worse for pugs because of everything I just stated, and its also worse for premades because now there's absolutely nothing to keep a bunch of pugs forming a premade and farming shit tons of honor to compete with your factions honor cap. So essentially everyone spends more time afking in bgs instead of having to actually earn honor.

The Chinese are going to destroy the Western players because they have absolutely no ability but loads of time to invest. And the current queuing system favors that exact playstyle.

We need to have more premade vs premade matchups to slow down the badmades honor farm, and the only way i see to force that is to allow only one queue at a time and being unable to queue people out of one bg and into another.

[Healthycoww]

0 confirmation by any form of dev or administrator for weeks now is pretty great.

[Ohhgee]

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