Absolutely blows my mind that people still cannot comprehend the difference between premading and winning every game because your team is superior and wintrading and winning every game because you literally do not have an opponent. One is clearly abuse and one is part of the game. Of course people have premaded since release, but wintrading was not possible until 4-5 weeks ago.
Minerals wrote:yep they should do that but after they removed all titels and gear from abusers like you.
Myself and tons of other players did ranks the same way they have been done for 11 years before the queue system was changed and wintrading was made possible. So if simply playing the game with friends/guildies is abuse then I guess ban me?
Hammersplat wrote:
It's never been good for pugs, we never got pug vs pug games. Before AV it was just all premades.
As someone that ranked to r10 solo queueing I have to say that "it was all just premades" is absolute bullshit. Depending on the time of day, you could get at least 1 PuG vs PuG game out of every 2-5 solo queues with the old system.
I'm sorry but the fact is that most of the players that claim that in the old system "every game" was a premade stomping them are the same players that give up and stop PvPing for the day after 3 or 4 losses to premade, and their opinions mean absolutely nothing because they don't play nearly enough hours of PvP on a daily basis to have a clear picture of how queues are functioning.
Now with new system every game, like actually EVERY SINGLE game is 10v3 garbage whether its a PuG or a premade.
And of COURSE premaders have/will always have it "better" than PuGs, it's a fcking MMO designed to be played with a group. Should I be punished as well because my guild can do 2 Onyxia raids with 20 players in each and get 2x 1 shot? Sometimes PuGs spend hours wiping to deep breath, so obviously I'm an abuser for not killing Ony that way, right?
the logic is fucking laughable.
. I skipped so much when I ranked 
