7K people online - all BG's are premade

[balodeux]

The big problem with creating a group queue vs solo queue would be a group of 2 people is considered a group then, and in no way have a huge effect on the outcome.

[bouss]

BGs are really bad. Premades vs premades and PUGs vs PUGs. That's the only solution.

[brendanv]

really should just be no more than a full party of 5. no raids allowed to queue. friends can still play together, without it being a complete shit show for the other side

[Colezz]

its more fun to sit in searing gorge and wreck the horde premaders that come in between queus. looking at you organic

[Ohr]

Since I'm in the office right now, let me give you a spreadsheet solution to the pugging problem
Create 2 brackets for level 60s queing.

[weeezing]

Leting people group queue as 5 is only a way to let alliance do 2x5 simultaneous queues for wsg etc. They could just wait for both grps to get the queue pop the same second and enter. Horde wouldn't be able to do this nearly as easily as wait time would be too long.

[Ohr]

No, i mean 2 brackets, meaning if you group 2-5 people, you get 8-5 people off soloque. You don't get together with another group.

Example:
Group1 of 5 people que
Group2 of 4 people que
Group1 put in wsg1 with 5 soloque players vs enemy 10 soloque plyers
Group2 put in wsg2 with 6 soloque players vs enemy 3 grouped + 7 soloque players

[PhilipRed]

It wouldnt matter if you face "sometimes" a premade as a solo queuer, but 90% of my games are against premades, which is not really a game.

Premade Vs Premade or disabling group queueing is the way to go.

To Gms or developers or however who is in charge is called, you must think that "premaders" are a small percentaje of pvp players, and they are literally ruining a big percentaje of pvp players fun.

What choices as a single pvp player do i really have?

- Join another premade; i wont fight, ill just farm honor and avoid other premades, plus i need some rank/ gear to get in one of these.

- Create my own premade; Not a choice for everyone, you need fluent english, good gear/rank and knowing the basics of battlegrounds, plus you will just farm honor and not really fight etc etc etc.

- Hope you dont have to face premades; Just play and waste 90% of your time, and if you are lucky you will face a non-premade group.

- Quit; and go play something or somewhere else.

what solution should Nostalrius add?

You can stick to what vanilla was back in the days, or you can add some solutions ass blizard did, so we can get real pvp, with people that is willing to fight for honor, not just want to farm and face no enemy.

If you think it twice.. who is the pvper? the one that farms, never fight and avoid challenges or the one that fights in every single battleground, try to team play and enjoy good matches? why is the second one, the real pvper disfavoured?

This really has to stop, real pvp is being ruined by farmers.

[Zaryy]

Premading si blizzlike, why would they change it?

[Xaeminos]

It wouldnt matter if you face "sometimes" a premade as a solo queuer, but 90% of my games are against premades, which is not really a game.

Premade Vs Premade or disabling group queueing is the way to go.

To Gms or developers or however who is in charge is called, you must think that "premaders" are a small percentaje of pvp players, and they are literally ruining a big perThis is Vanilla. BGs had issues. Hell, when AV first came out, our guild and an alliance guild took turns against each other farming honor - alternating wins. Vanilla BG had flaws. That's just the way it is.

If you want to PvP for real or with real skill, then Arena and Rated BGs in current WoW is the way to go. It's also, not perfect but at least it has a rating and matching system in place. entaje of pvp players fun.

What choices as a single pvp player do i really have?

- Join another premade; i wont fight, ill just farm honor and avoid other premades, plus i need some rank/ gear to get in one of these.

- Create my own premade; Not a choice for everyone, you need fluent english, good gear/rank and knowing the basics of battlegrounds, plus you will just farm honor and not really fight etc etc etc.

- Hope you dont have to face premades; Just play and waste 90% of your time, and if you are lucky you will face a non-premade group.

- Quit; and go play something or somewhere else.

what solution should Nostalrius add?

You can stick to what vanilla was back in the days, or you can add some solutions ass blizard did, so we can get real pvp, with people that is willing to fight for honor, not just want to farm and face no enemy.

If you think it twice.. who is the pvper? the one that farms, never fight and avoid challenges or the one that fights in every single battleground, try to team play and enjoy good matches? why is the second one, the real pvper disfavoured?

This really has to stop, real pvp is being ruined by farmers.

This is Vanilla. BGs had issues. Hell, when AV first came out 10 years ago, our guild and an alliance guild took turns against each other farming honor - alternating wins. Vanilla BG had flaws. That's just the way it is.

If you want to PvP for real or with real skill, then Arena and Rated BGs in current WoW is the way to go. It's also, not perfect but at least it has a rating and matching system in place.