Warsong Gulch Graveyard jumping

[Fubbzy]

its just another layer of skill you have to utilize. i personally dont like to use out of map jumps, but if need be ill go there to take out an enemy. shortcuts, like the gy jumps and other un named ones, however i always use. jumps are a double edged sword though, if your teammates cant follow you in a shortcut and you isolate yourself, ur kinda fucked. or if you are low hp and you die mid jump and no one can repick the flag for instance. i dont agree with using magic dust/fap/rockethelms myself, but im always prepared to counter them, choosing to believe jumps cant be used wont get you anywhere ^^

[diogenes]

Claiming I don't know what a metaphor is, and then trying to take my words literally is probably the funniest piece of irony I've ever seen in my life.

I never said you didnt know what a metaphor was, but I'm beginning to think you really don't. I took the accurate definition and applied the definition of that adjective to the word grasp (which you used). If I took you literally, i would have asked how it was possible to grasp reality at all.

Seriously, keep digging a hole, it's funny to watch.

See that's actually a decent metaphor that makes coherent sense. Bravo.

It looks like i might be getting through to you.

[Blastitute]

You don't grasp reality with hands.
However enough of that offtopic nonsense.

I have to agree with Shonem, I'm pretty sure he understands the reality of this the most.

With your Khan stuff, I can understand that the "supreme guy" would defend his supremacy (GY jumpers), where as the "stomped down lesser people" (those that want fair gaming) would rise up and overthrow the evil. Which I typically find justified. In the end you'll notice that the "supreme people" were just noobs abusing something that shouldn't be possible. gg

[diogenes]

where as the "stomped down lesser people" (those that want fair gaming) would rise up and overthrow the evil.

You only consider it evil because you suck and can't do it.

You don't grasp reality with hands.
However enough of that offtopic nonsense.

You don't "grasp reality" at all actually. Its a metaphor; however when you are using a metaphor you are making a comparison between two things. both things have to make coherent sense, while the comparison requires you to "suspend your disbelief."

You can't say "Thin chaos is my friend." That's butchering a decent metaphor and making it incoherent. How can chaos be thin?

[Blastitute]

Noticed a funny trend here:

Those that defend Gy jumping attack the person
Those that don't, use arguments.

[diogenes]

Noticed a funny trend here:

Those that defend Gy jumping attack the person
Those that don't, use arguments.

Yea, calling the people who do it cheaters, that's not attacking the people, and that's totally not just declaring yourself the winner and using a perfectly rational argument.

You might as well call people who use skull to break sheep cheaters, because that damage wasn't "intended" to break cc.

[Blastitute]

Pretty sure I've rather called the thing itself exploit, less so people doing it cheaters. Exploiting stuff is cheating to me, and thus it would only be a natural part of the argument. I've also asked if others think it's cheating and if it used to be in vanilla and if blizzard used to ban for it.

However, I still haven't heard a single argument that would clearly say that the GY jumping is intented mechanic, or any reason why some team that's so superior would need to use it...

[Proctologist]

Hello PvPers of Nostalrius.

I have a question, is/was Warsong Gulch graveyard jumping
1: Blizzlike
2: Honorable gameplay
3: Bannable back in the day
4: Something that should be fixed?

What is graveyard jumping? Graveyard jumping is a term mostly used when for instance a horde druid picks up a flag, runs below (and far east side) their graveyard, and jumps from the cliffs so that they can get to the ressing area and having a "shortcut" to skip ramp/tunnel.

I myself do not find this okay, no matter which team would abuse it. Just that afaik only druids and maybe shamans can do the jump while carrying flag, without consumables. Also, if the graveyard was supposed to have a way up, it would be a clear path, not some fishy jumping on cliffs. Getting a bit tired seeing enemy rogue use fap in flagroom and getting all the way to middle with speedboosts and little peeling, then drop to druid who faps and runs up to the graveyard jump position and scores or gets to safety, diminishing the opposing team capability to attack / defend their flag immensely. Sure it's a good play but not something I'd encourage, especially when the team itself is losing almost every combat but can zerg the enemy healersless FC eventually.

In short, my opinion is that this method is not originally intented and should not be abused, also it should be obviously fixed aswell.

Thanks for reading and answers.

[kanem]

Downranking heals was never intended either. Lots of things are done that were not intended. Then they become part of the game. The ability to adapt and an ever changing environment is why we play MMO's. It is the nature of a game with as many variables as this one has. That is why I enjoy games like this. I even like the little quirks every private server has.

[Ohhgee]

doom skull to break CC? exploit
graveyard jump? exploit
ice block/vanish/bubble and reclick flag? exploit
fake casting? exploit
down ranking heals? exploit
noggenfogger spamming and trash buffs? exploit

the logic is absolutely ridiculous