Fix AV backdoor

Re: Fix AV backdoor

by snawfu » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:39 pm

fotia wrote:The mines don't fix the problem. They help a little at first but they can't stop them. Maybe they kill some but most hordes using the backdoor and they come with healers. Healers are back so we can't hit ofc. We can't guard 2 entrances and attack the same time. The backdoor must be safe. Maybe make them respawn asap.

You literally need 5 people to shutdown your base completely. Now stfu and go play the game ples

Viper wrote:Greetings,

Last statistics made last weekend gave the following ratio: 37% Alliance's victory for 63% on Horde's side for the last 624 AV matchs.

As a consequence, Stormpike explosives expert took the decision to add more landmines on a specific spot to slow down Horde's attacks. New landmines has been set to explode according to existing ones.


If we're doing this could you fix the horde base as well so you can't just run up with 40 people and cap towers and kill Vann within 5 minutes of arriving there. (It happens when Alliance actually knows what they're doing instead of crying on the forums).
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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by Dongabhana » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:49 pm

fotia wrote:The mines don't fix the problem. They help a little at first but they can't stop them. Maybe they kill some but most hordes using the backdoor and they come with healers. Healers are back so we can't hit ofc. We can't guard 2 entrances and attack the same time. The backdoor must be safe. Maybe make them respawn asap.


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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by fotia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:52 pm

snawfu wrote:
fotia wrote:The mines don't fix the problem. They help a little at first but they can't stop them. Maybe they kill some but most hordes using the backdoor and they come with healers. Healers are back so we can't hit ofc. We can't guard 2 entrances and attack the same time. The backdoor must be safe. Maybe make them respawn asap.

You literally need 5 people to shutdown your base completely. Now stfu and go play the game ples

Viper wrote:Greetings,

Last statistics made last weekend gave the following ratio: 37% Alliance's victory for 63% on Horde's side for the last 624 AV matchs.

As a consequence, Stormpike explosives expert took the decision to add more landmines on a specific spot to slow down Horde's attacks. New landmines has been set to explode according to existing ones.


If we're doing this could you fix the horde base as well so you can't just run up with 40 people and cap towers and kill Vann within 5 minutes of arriving there. (It happens when Alliance actually knows what they're doing instead of crying on the forums).


You saying bullshit and ofc you want to continue using the backdoor. Not even 10 man can't stop the backdoor when most hordes are going there. I know you don't want the fix of this exploit cause you get fast and easy honor and rep. So you stfu idiot
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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by snawfu » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:57 pm

fotia wrote:butthurt bullshit from a backpeddler retpaladin


It's ok mate I was exalted with AV first week of release, I'm just telling you how it is and in your infinite retardation I obviously don't expect you to understand or listen to any factual proof.

You keep crying on the forums maybe they'll give you exalted instead of actually playing the game, kkthxbai shitlord)
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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by Sinisterstrike » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:08 pm

Just admins playing for aliance. That's why they are adding more mines at backdoor spots. And Viper, tell me please ratio of A/H wins for october. I think it was like 20% for horde and 80% for alliance, because they are have some advantages in their base, and no MOBs at horde's base. Also horde didn't know backdoor tactic. So now the horde find the way, which depends only on skill of players, and you are(admins) killing it for crying babies from alliance side, which can't just defend narrow way of backdoor... Let's add more NPCs or some landmines at horde's base? No, cause, as i said, admins play for alliance and do that server for crying babies.
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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by mozibake » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:13 pm

Hey Viper I thought you said infinitely respawning lieutenants were fixed, like a month ago? Cause they're fucking not.
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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by lycos » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:50 pm

Sinisterstrike wrote:Just admins playing for aliance. That's why they are adding more mines at backdoor spots. And Viper, tell me please ratio of A/H wins for october. I think it was like 20% for horde and 80% for alliance, because they are have some advantages in their base, and no MOBs at horde's base. Also horde didn't know backdoor tactic. So now the horde find the way, which depends only on skill of players, and you are(admins) killing it for crying babies from alliance side, which can't just defend narrow way of backdoor... Let's add more NPCs or some landmines at horde's base? No, cause, as i said, admins play for alliance and do that server for crying babies.


You know that alliance casters can't pass the ib and tp towers ? Maybe horde base don't have so many npcs but actually alliance casters can't approach it like horde casters can approach alliance base. But that is by design. The backdoor is an unbalance exploit that favors hordes and it didn't been fixed for many weeks. So you can't blame the admins that playing ally (with this criteria someone could say otherwise).

I am sure that admins not taking sides but prioritize the bugs. Maybe when only few hordes were using the backdoor this wasn't that important to be fixed. But now it is cause hordes using this exploit and win almost every game. The mines helped but their respawn time is very long and don't solve the problem.
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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by mozibake » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:01 pm

Alliance don't have to deal with MURGOT FUCKING DEEPFORGE spawning directly up their rectum every 30 seconds, or having the (now) only entrance to the enemy base completely locked down by a priest and a level 51 mage.
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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by lycos » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:26 pm

As I said the long respawn of mines at the backdoor didn't solve the problem at all. As you see hordes taking the aid gy from backdoor within 24 min. Fast honor and rep for hordes at AV weekend is kind of frustrating.

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Re: Fix AV backdoor

by mozibake » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:53 pm

Like a lot of things, this is a bug/feature that was there since vanilla, but in actual vanilla retail not as many people knew about it. It's only 11 years later that it's been explored/exploited in depth.

As Horde I agree with you that it's silly, but it's also silly that Alliance can lock down their base with just a few aoers on defense. AV shouldn't come down to "get AIDS through the backdoor in 20 minutes or cap SPGY for a 6 hour turtle", surely there is a middle ground.
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