BG queue system issue, asking for administrator response

[Ohhgee]

Again to be clear I'm totally happy w/ the removal of multi queue and this post is purely devil's advocate

The most likely thing that will happen now is that the same Premades that have existed for the past several weeks will continue to play together but will do so by counting down in Team Speak and solo queueing at the same time. They will do this purely because you simply cannot earn a high standing if you wait in long Premade VS Premade queues, and fight long tryhard games against enemy premades. It has nothing to do with skill or willingness to fight other premades. It is purely about honor per hour.

Anyway, it APPEARS that countdown queueing is already what Premaders are doing on both factions (for the record I have nothing against it personally). This method doesn't guarantee they get in the same game, but it means that for the most part the same players will continue stomping games together in the same groups.

Obviously these changes are a HUGE improvement because solo queue players have full/legitimate games once again, and premaders have to actually fight a full team in every game. The only point I'm trying to make is that premades are going to switch to countdown queueing, and then they will be thrown into the same queue pool as pugs.

So everything will play out almost exactly the same as if we had OLD queue system + no multi queue, with the only real difference being that premaders are forced to endure the headache of countdown queueing instead of simply queueing as a raid.

Again, I love the changes and could care less about premaders or their honor, this is just my 2 cents.

[Niko]

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[varth]

So you are saying that you will now have to do countdown queuing, which while effective gives the PuG's a chance to only face a portion of your premade. That's not the same as the old system queue because it gives PuG's a better shot to not face a full premade. Sounds good to me.

[Ohhgee]

So you are saying that you will now have to do countdown queuing, which while effective gives the PuG's a chance to only face a portion of your premade. That's not the same as the old system queue because it gives PuG's a better shot to not face a full premade. Sounds good to me.

Yes, this will sometimes be true, and solo queue players will also sometimes experience being placed in a game w/ a partial Premade from their own faction. You do have a good point when you say that this helps puggers out a bit more than the old system would. It just seems silly to force rankers to use a loophole when Nost could just use old system + NO multi queue and have very similar results to what we are seeing now, only rankers wouldn't have the headache of countdown queueing.

Again, i haven't cared about honor for almost 2 months now, and I mostly solo queue, and I love the removal of multi queue and love the current state of BGs after the change. I'm only commenting on the big picture

[Ana]

It just seems silly to force rankers to use a loophole when Nost could just use old system + NO multi queue and have very similar results to what we are seeing now, only rankers wouldn't have the headache of countdown queueing.

With what has been going on for the past 2 months, I daresay the difference is huge. The morale hit coming from knowing for sure you ended up facing a premade is enough to make half the group go afk these days... now if you face the same people but it's mostly guaranteed that they aren't a premade or aren't a full premade or SOMETHING, people are somehow a bit more eager to fight. Can't complain

[Niko]

I have to say, the pugs are eager to fight back most of the time.

[coupdegrace]

Again to be clear I'm totally happy w/ the removal of multi queue and this post is purely devil's advocate

The most likely thing that will happen now is that the same Premades that have existed for the past several weeks will continue to play together but will do so by counting down in Team Speak and solo queueing at the same time. They will do this purely because you simply cannot earn a high standing if you wait in long Premade VS Premade queues, and fight long tryhard games against enemy premades. It has nothing to do with skill or willingness to fight other premades. It is purely about honor per hour.

Anyway, it APPEARS that countdown queueing is already what Premaders are doing on both factions (for the record I have nothing against it personally). This method doesn't guarantee they get in the same game, but it means that for the most part the same players will continue stomping games together in the same groups.

Obviously these changes are a HUGE improvement because solo queue players have full/legitimate games once again, and premaders have to actually fight a full team in every game. The only point I'm trying to make is that premades are going to switch to countdown queueing, and then they will be thrown into the same queue pool as pugs.

So everything will play out almost exactly the same as if we had OLD queue system + no multi queue, with the only real difference being that premaders are forced to endure the headache of countdown queueing instead of simply queueing as a raid.

Again, I love the changes and could care less about premaders or their honor, this is just my 2 cents.

so we should strip your r13 and items away- what a selfish clown

[Sylvant]

Again to be clear I'm totally happy w/ the removal of multi queue and this post is purely devil's advocate

The most likely thing that will happen now is that the same Premades that have existed for the past several weeks will continue to play together but will do so by counting down in Team Speak and solo queueing at the same time. They will do this purely because you simply cannot earn a high standing if you wait in long Premade VS Premade queues, and fight long tryhard games against enemy premades. It has nothing to do with skill or willingness to fight other premades. It is purely about honor per hour.

Anyway, it APPEARS that countdown queueing is already what Premaders are doing on both factions (for the record I have nothing against it personally). This method doesn't guarantee they get in the same game, but it means that for the most part the same players will continue stomping games together in the same groups.

Obviously these changes are a HUGE improvement because solo queue players have full/legitimate games once again, and premaders have to actually fight a full team in every game. The only point I'm trying to make is that premades are going to switch to countdown queueing, and then they will be thrown into the same queue pool as pugs.

So everything will play out almost exactly the same as if we had OLD queue system + no multi queue, with the only real difference being that premaders are forced to endure the headache of countdown queueing instead of simply queueing as a raid.

Again, I love the changes and could care less about premaders or their honor, this is just my 2 cents.

THIS

[PhilipRed]

You must think that queueing at the same time might be an "abuse" or a "trick". You are jumping over premade restrictions to play as premade, you might get banned.

[Tordak]

Could be worse could have people grief outside instances.