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Re: rip pvp

by Jarek » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:12 am

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Re: rip pvp

by Viorus » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:57 am

Thank you OP for your racist response.
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Re: rip pvp

by WadaRuse » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:28 am

Viorus wrote:Thank you OP for your racist response.


it's not racist because it's the truth , I dare you to play an evening of Arathi pugs on horde side and not rage at the chinese . Let it be horde chinese afk'ing ( always the same people: Aleax , 90% of Blood and Honor , ... ) or the account-sharing Alliance premades (Devileyes , their unbanned guildleader WangWang , Acfuner et al . ) , there is definitely a problem with the chinese playerbase making PvP on Horde ( and maybe Alliance side , dunno ) not enjoyable at all . And let's not even talk about the stupid high honor inflation , have you seen last weeks standings ? Let's wait and see this weeks 8-)
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Re: rip pvp

by Younie » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:40 am

Healthycoww wrote:False.

By the action of queueing as a premade, this actually kept my 5 man from seeing any premades at all. I made a point of playing when I knew there was a group of 10 queueing. If you guys played even a single game that lasted longer then 10 minutes we were beating you.

It made my entire night an effortless pug stomp. Even with the server disconnects we could have easily pushed the br1 cap to 1 million if we desired it.

The only reason Niko beat us to cap were the server disconnects. We led by about 200K for the majority of the warsong weekend til the night we tried to play during 6 hours straight of instant DCs.

That's part of the problem. It actually benefits your competition MORE to keep those premades out of the solo queue then it benefits you for queueing as a premade yourself..


You're talking about the phase where the domination was still to be established.
On monday, I got home at 6pm, got invited by Niko, and we only got instant q pug games untill I went off to bed at 11pm.
We made 120k in 5hours.
If you dominate everything from wednesday, you pretty much have this for the whole week. Instant prem v pug games whole week. Way more honnor than your 7min q 5man prem.
At the cost of the first few games where you have to scare everyone off of course.

Just look at Alliance, dominating from the start of this week.



In fact, if you have 10 people willing to sacrifice themselves, you could have them queue as a full premade and simply open games for the scary premades while your real group farms pugs. This queue system is just designed to be abused, I think the empty games proved that.

I can't think of any ways to abuse blizzlike queues, but this system.... Oh man
You guys gotta think outside the box.

In the "absue" you describe, you're still qing as small group
You don't have the isntant q benefits, you don't have a team as good as if you were premading.
You still lose to honnor compared to a premade that has already instaured domination.
This "abuse" only reduces the amount of your faction pugger and increase the chance all your faction's pug to get flushed before all the other faction's pug (meaning more likelyness to get a pug as premade in your faction).
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Re: rip pvp

by Healthycoww » Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:44 am

Monday? You mean you weren't finished before the weekend ended?
Was anyone even still playing that late in the week?

We stopped because of the constant bitching about high caps.

You do realize the only people that play on monday are the remnants that can't hit their caps right? Even if you run a quality premade you're left to using substitutes and replacements that late in the week.
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Re: rip pvp

by arOo » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:08 pm

Keep telling yourself that Healthy,
while you were fighting we basically had empty games & we didn't see some of the alliance premades at all.
--> They only played against other teams.

Yes- you will effectively queue into existing alliance premades and you maybe have a couple of long games, but that's only until they realize they can't be effective themselves like that.
The results:
A: The Alliance Premades will start to dodge you /only farm kills in midfield.
B: They will open up empty games for you, which will be filled with pugs.
C: The Alliance Premades will completly disband and single q.

In all of those events, the Premading system is/was superior.
(200k Honor a day on WSG WE - 5-8min games with instant queue)
Edit: And those days aren't very long ~maybe 12-16h
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Re: rip pvp

by Healthycoww » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:10 pm

Alright, who was in my 5 man, There was Myself, Strongtank, Merfy, Nastynate, Gromyko and occasionally Thangarth/Oneseconds

http://realmplayers.com/PVPList.aspx?se ... &realm=NRB

Hmmm... Dat top 10 though. The easiest time we had was when others were keeping the alliance premades busy.
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Re: rip pvp

by arOo » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:14 pm

Are you drugged up matey? You just said yourself, we stop farming when we reach the assigned honor goal.

Besides look at the HKs, we did that cap with roughly 20-30h playing less.

And from that PoV 1mil caps would have been np either (while being completly unnecassary)
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Re: rip pvp

by Healthycoww » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:19 pm

So I stay savagely far ahead of people for 2 weeks straight, and even state the reasons why I'm able to while putting in the same time some of the other do... Even finishing early and having 2 complete days off where I don't even have to play a single bg..

And your method is better? Alright bro go for it.
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Re: rip pvp

by arOo » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:21 pm

Healthycoww wrote:So I stay savagely far ahead of people for 2 weeks straight, and even state the reasons why I'm able to while putting in the same time some of the other do... Even finishing early and having 2 complete days off where I don't even have to play a single bg..

And your method is better? Alright bro go for it.

HAHAHAH the drugs mate they are bad mkay, Niko was constantly st1 during the entire (warsong) week.

Go get some sleep bra, you need it.
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