20-29 Thread

Re: 20-29 Thread

by trorsmang » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:53 pm

its very easy to twink without a main at least in the 19 and 29 brackets.

I pvpd on my main in every bracket as i leveled up 19, 29, 39 and 49. I never had any arcanums or any expensive bis boe items from AH (like pendulum of doom) and I did just fine. At 29 as ally you can safely farm magic dust and sell them (quite valuable especially if you xfer them over to horde through neutral AH and sell them on horde side).

Start gathering your lvl 29 dungeon drops as early as possible. Id start trying to get into gnomer at as early as lvl 25 or so and RFK as early as 27 if you can otherwise you might have to get a higher lvl to give you runs so you dont get too much exp.

At 29 in between ques or when i wasn't pvping i was farming SFK for lvl 19 bis items to sell for gold which worked out great I think I farmed a shadowfang, night reaver x2, assassin's dagger, and several others in 2 weeks time while i was pvping in that bracket
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by Bebban » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:56 am

Hello pplz, when are we gonna start doing premades vs premades again? We did it for a long while but from my understanding hordes doesn't want to anymore? Is this a leadership issue or whats going on? My personal opinion is that the horde side ran their premades in a bad way, with the kiting bullshit. I think it's far more interesting to have an offence and defence with what you have. Then you try to outsmart with numbers/composition which requieres pvp and the stronger team deserves the cap.

We got a forum and people that plays on both sides which means communication shouldnt be an issue. It would be cool to setup costum rules aswell, like this WSG is about full 10v10 fights and the winners gets the cap. Or how about setting fixed numbers for offence/defence.

What do you guys think about this?

I know that horde got plenty of twinks and so does alliance, if we make the games more fun I'm sure that more people will start playing again! And those 2 hour games wasn't fun at all!
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by stimz » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:43 am

Bebban wrote:Hello pplz, when are we gonna start doing premades vs premades again? We did it for a long while but from my understanding hordes doesn't want to anymore? Is this a leadership issue or whats going on? My personal opinion is that the horde side ran their premades in a bad way, with the kiting bullshit. I think it's far more interesting to have an offence and defence with what you have. Then you try to outsmart with numbers/composition which requieres pvp and the stronger team deserves the cap.

We got a forum and people that plays on both sides which means communication shouldnt be an issue. It would be cool to setup costum rules aswell, like this WSG is about full 10v10 fights and the winners gets the cap. Or how about setting fixed numbers for offence/defence.

What do you guys think about this?

I know that horde got plenty of twinks and so does alliance, if we make the games more fun I'm sure that more people will start playing again! And those 2 hour games wasn't fun at all!


bad team comps as well.

Here's some pointers since you guys suck at theorycrafting:

-don't run more than one rogue as horde and make sure its a good rogue. net projector / imp bliz / phowl / frost trap deletes this class from the game, but you can still run it as burst(daggers) since it has the highest at 29, or as imp expose with good healers.

-Stacking hunters is stupid when you have bad interrupts, easily healed through.

-Shamans are better than warriors and rogues, filling 3 roles(tank- eagle ele, melee, healer) while bringing half cost(vs priest) offensive dispel and a host of other utility, including 0 cd aoe fear dispel. Dear god, stop equipping 2 handers with cloth, are you retarded? Armor matters.

-Feral druids are good really good dps, especially duo'd with a disc priest or resto shaman.

-Frost mages are inferior to fire mages, especially as horde.

-Warlocks op

-Stop treating healing like a bitch role, put some skilled players on healers.

K, see you for premades in a week
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by Shmuck » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:55 pm

Horde only queue when they know they can win. Glorious horde leader knows they can't win a 10v10 prem. So he'd rather play scattered pugs and individual twinks or log to the other brackets and do the same there. This is nothing new.
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by Kazuma » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:18 pm

Dem pussies! :twisted:
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by bishop » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:17 pm

Shmuck wrote:Horde only queue when they know they can win. Glorious horde leader knows they can't win a 10v10 prem. So he'd rather play scattered pugs and individual twinks or log to the other brackets and do the same there. This is nothing new.


This is a very narrow minded view about the whole situation. It is well known, that Horde does not have alot Heals in BG's through all brackets. I can easily say, that most of the time i am in BG's, you guys have atleast the double amount of heals in the battleground. And as a matter of fact, Healing wins BG's. So how cool is it to brag with your premade Hunter/Priest army, which are max twinked, pretty much the most op classes in the bracket, if played right?
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by Shmuck » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:44 pm

bishop wrote:
Shmuck wrote:Horde only queue when they know they can win. Glorious horde leader knows they can't win a 10v10 prem. So he'd rather play scattered pugs and individual twinks or log to the other brackets and do the same there. This is nothing new.


This is a very narrow minded view about the whole situation. It is well known, that Horde does not have alot Heals in BG's through all brackets. I can easily say, that most of the time i am in BG's, you guys have atleast the double amount of heals in the battleground. And as a matter of fact, Healing wins BG's. So how cool is it to brag with your premade Hunter/Priest army, which are max twinked, pretty much the most op classes in the bracket, if played right?


It's not like the horde don't have these players either. The lack of organisation is atrocious and this leads to the roflstomps that occur when we do premades and this is now why the horde don't do this. You have good players just scattered everywhere. And btw we have run our prems with 0 hunters many times. Hunters don't mean auto win.
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by bishop » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:44 pm

Shmuck wrote:
bishop wrote:
Shmuck wrote:Horde only queue when they know they can win. Glorious horde leader knows they can't win a 10v10 prem. So he'd rather play scattered pugs and individual twinks or log to the other brackets and do the same there. This is nothing new.


This is a very narrow minded view about the whole situation. It is well known, that Horde does not have alot Heals in BG's through all brackets. I can easily say, that most of the time i am in BG's, you guys have atleast the double amount of heals in the battleground. And as a matter of fact, Healing wins BG's. So how cool is it to brag with your premade Hunter/Priest army, which are max twinked, pretty much the most op classes in the bracket, if played right?


It's not like the horde don't have these players either. The lack of organisation is atrocious and this leads to the roflstomps that occur when we do premades and this is now why the horde don't do this. You have good players just scattered everywhere. And btw we have run our prems with 0 hunters many times. Hunters don't mean auto win.


Interesting, that you completely ignored my argument about that Heals wins BG's. Why do you think Nuriell made a Priest twink on Horde side? Because he sees that big unbalance in terms of heals between Alliance and Horde. And it certainly helps alot having Hunter's like Insanitty with his "healing armada" in the back to faceroll the semitwinked nonhealing Horde. Keep wearing the blinders bro and brag more about your prems and top organisation
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by Kazuma » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:10 pm

Do the same as us, but better?? Jeez where is the horde' fighting spirit.. Bunch of pussies.
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Re: 20-29 Thread

by Shmuck » Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:29 pm

Interesting, that you completely ignored my argument about that Heals wins BG's. Why do you think Nuriell made a Priest twink on Horde side? Because he sees that big unbalance in terms of heals between Alliance and Horde. And it certainly helps alot having Hunter's like Insanitty with his "healing armada" in the back to faceroll the semitwinked nonhealing Horde. Keep wearing the blinders bro and brag more about your prems and top organisation


First off, I don't want to speak for Nuri, but she is one of many ally players who have already done this. You do realize that at least 6 ally players have fully twinked horde 29s as well? But by doing this the competitive feel is semi lost because you are essentially just beating or losing to your own guild. Don't get me wrong I like winning but I rather have better games and competition. The only way this happens if the Horde get their act together and get an organisational system that benefits new twinks and interests other players (not ally twinks kek). I could name at least 10 great Horde players who just flat out said fuck this and lvled out of this bracket.

All I ask for is set time premades. The numbers are there someone just needs to get it done.
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