Fix AV backdoor

[kavinskyr]

They changed Dm tribute with a custom fix, goz of all whiners.. So simply.. Deal with the mines and l2p

[mozibake]

How does more mines help when a 315fr tank can just clear them without taking dmg?

How much harder do you whining Alliance babies need to be spoonfed in AV? Maybe next week the Stormpike mine layer will "take the decision" to place more infinitely respawning mines, this time directly inside Frostwolf keep? I'm sure he'll do it if you keep crying enough.

[Jarek]

How does more mines help when a 315fr tank can just clear them without taking dmg?

How much harder do you whining Alliance babies need to be spoonfed in AV? Maybe next week the Stormpike mine layer will "take the decision" to place more infinitely respawning mines, this time directly inside Frostwolf keep? I'm sure he'll do it if you keep crying enough.

idjet I play horde and I kept winning even after they added more mines for the exact reason I mentioned

[toolshed]

So now the horde find the way, which depends only on skill of players

hahahaha Skill of the players........ right.......

[varth]

Maybe if the alliance pulled their head out of their ass they would realize that the map is geared towards their faction immensely. The fact that you kill Galv before capping the IB tower and GY speaks volumes about how incompetent you are. Maybe if you did the same thing horde does (skip Balinda completely, go for bunker + gy, then other bunker) you would win. Instead of improving your strategy you just cry on forums about a BG that you are already favored in.

I can't fucking believe that viper will add mines but won't fix the respawning LTs, crazy NPC agro in alliance base with 1min respawn times.

Getting from SH gy to anything beyond the bunker is a god damn gauntlet, you 100% will agro 1 lt (that shouldn't even be spawned because you killed and capped his GY 10 minutes ago), then you either stay on the path and agro another Lt, 3 patrols, and 1-2 rams and arrows, or you run though mines.

[mozibake]

^ that

IWB is a nightmare to get past when it's fucking empty, if Alliance weren't retards they could defend it and shut down the entire map.

[toolshed]

Respawning LTs are a problem for both sides, so using them as an excuse for exploiting the terrain is pretty ridiculous

I have played vanilla AV as horde and alliance; alliance has a slight advantage due to the bridge (but horde doesnt know how to attack it, so they just wipe due to 1 hunter all day) but IBGY is still a very tough choke point.

Alliance would win a majority of AV PUGs if they went for IBGY as their first GY target; going for the middle GY + trolls is awful

[Krowal]

I'm so interested about the win ratio since they added the mines. And really, mines are easy to deal with, what I have noticed is that alliance started to put some defense on backdoor aswell. If they have used their brains before they could stop us every game instead of crying.

[Snautz]

Greetings,

Last statistics made last weekend gave the following ratio: 37% Alliance's victory for 63% on Horde's side for the last 624 AV matchs.

As a consequence, Stormpike explosives expert took the decision to add more landmines on a specific spot to slow down Horde's attacks. New landmines has been set to explode according to existing ones.

I highly disagree with this kind of custom hot fixes. You don't have to change how a BG works because a lot of carebears from one faction are QQing that the other side has a map advantage.
You did the same mistake months ago by changing how pvp queue system works because carebear PUGs cried about getting stomped by premades, resulting in the worst queue system ever.

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.9#Multiple_Battlegrounds_Queues

I agree with the rest you had to say though.

[Slicy]

I don't get what you mean ? The fact multiqueue was added in 1.9 just means the system without multiqueue is blizzlike too. So having a blizzlike queue system with multiqueue disabled is doable and acceptable.
There are countless enlightened treads over several months which explained what is the least worst system for that. Setting it up isn't hard, seeing how the pvp queue system got hot fixed in the past.
I was referring to when they added non blizzlike queues (aka when they tried to make premades only face premades which obviously is a fail since (afk)pugging will yield more hph).


Anyways the main problem is we're getting a custom hotfix to a simple "map advantage*" that is blizzlike and not game breaking based on couple carebears QQing on the forum and based on a winrate which is simply the result of one side being bad at playing the map. Like I said, might as well do a hotfix to the ledge near the horde portal in WSG with that kind of logic.

*Just think about it : Horde players stacking up at this area is just an easier way than the bridge to wipe them and stop the backdoor. They have 2 ways in the opposite faction's base. Same thing for Alliance. It's not even a map advantage.

I play Alliance and I honestly think the people who create threads to shed their tears about AV backdoor by horde or how one side has more map advantages than the other are nothing but bad players who are too used to how retail works with everything handed to them on a silver plate, which isn't what you'd want to do with such a huge community on a private server.