Regarding Battlegrounds on Nostalrius

[Draped]

The best solution would be to disable pre made vs pug games altogether

[Adurin]

Awwwwww BOO HOO 10 minute queue u gonna cry some more?
I lost last 7 pugs as alliance in AB. Quit your bitching pls

LOL...... This week alone I spent the first 6 hours losing to the same Ally premade in AB just a day or so ago. Pretty sure most of your pug games were against horde pugs.

Let me know when you get 5 capped for 6 hours back to back against a horde premade. Oh wait that's never gonna happen to you as alliance... NVM carry on with QQ plz!

[Ohhgee]

The best solution would be to disable pre made vs pug games altogether

Nostalrius trying to do this is what fucked up queues in the 1st place. Tampering with an 11 year old system that was professionally developed always produces negative side effects, as we have continued to see.

bump for another week of AFKing china bots getting r14

[Azuros]

yep yep, obviously any queue system is gonna have its flaws, thats just the way the game is designed in vanilla. But might as well keep it blizzlike (without multi queue obviously since its so abusable unless you run x-realm bgs like on retail). That way at least the best premade will win instead of china.

in other words...bump.

[Quickbowjob]

The best solution would be to disable pre made vs pug games altogether

Agree.

[snawfu]

The best solution would be to disable pre made vs pug games altogether

bump for another week of AFKing china bots getting r14

Whereas blizzlike ques without multique is probably the best way to do it.
Now that premades can't get PUGs, the best organized and coordinated 5man teams who can turn games will get highest standings, not chinabots like you say..

[Ohhgee]

What do people not understand... The whole reason Nost tampered with queues in the 1st place was to try to force premades into only fighting each other... Obviously if you do this, then Premading becomes no longer worth it Honor wise because you sit in long queues and fight drawn out games. So naturally people will find other ways of getting the Honor

There wasn't a problem with AFKers and Chinabots when queues were Blizzlike. This was because you couldn't AFK your way to high standings, if you wanted high standings you had to get Engineering, and some decent items, and group with other tryhard players (sounds just like every other aspect of Vanilla eh?)

So, the question is, do you want the top standings to be going to Premaders, AFKers, or Wintraders? Because I am here to tell you that this magical world of premades fighting only each other all day, and PuG players happily playing in a separate queue will never exist. Period. End of story. Nostalrius has been trying to create that type of environment with these ridiculous queue changes and the results have been totally toxic.

[Ana]

I don't know about toxic. If you join pugs these days the result is generally dictated by how many afk chingchongs each side happens to have. You end up playing 10v10, or 12v11 or something ABs but unless the balance is extremely skewed they're honest games. Throwing more premades into the equation would make pugs unplayable altogether. What makes you think switching back to pure blizzlike system will make the chingchongs, dunno, start playing maybe? They'll remain there afking 23 hours a day and turning every single pug into unplayable pile of shit (premading becomes more viable honor grinding option => normal decent players start joining premades exclusively => china to human ratio in pugs raises drastically => byebye pugs).

[Amkô]

Hey guys, didn't hit level60 yet, but was rank11 in retail then with my hunter and rank10 with my warrior. So I did a lot of pvp..

How is it on Nostalrius, when someone hits lvl60? Is it even possible to get rank10 with playing ~10hrs/week BGs?

[Ana]

Yes if you join a premade that 5caps every game.