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about PVP premades dodging

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:25 am
by ajooba
so the devs made it so that you get deserter debuff for logging out in a bg to make the premades stop dodging. but why do you still allow to change battlegrounds while still being in one? wouldnt that make a lot more sense? i can still see a lot of premades dodging. for example ally premades hop from ab to wsg to ab back and out of it to the next wsg again. this is so fail i cant believe its true. just disable that fucking bg hopping what is the problem?


another good idea that came up on me to make premades more unattractive since premades ruin the game for more than 90% of the other people that play on your server: if you let premades queue against pugs then make them earn only half of the honor for winning the bg since their chances of winning are also at least double as much. makes sense right?

Re: about PVP premades dodging

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 12:14 pm
by RealTalk
So groups should earn less honor because you can't work together in the pug? You're the same amount of people on each team, just man up and fight instead of afking at the gy.

Re: about PVP premades dodging

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 12:43 pm
by riq and snog
The bg hoping is an issue tough... disable multi que when your group joins a bg or something like that would fix it
Ex: you and yer 9 friends form a premade.
You que up for wsg and ab

u take the first bg that opens up and when joining automatically loose the que timer for the other bg.

Problem solved

Re: about PVP premades dodging

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 1:21 pm
by Setup
RealTalk wrote:So groups should earn less honor because you can't work together in the pug? You're the same amount of people on each team, just man up and fight instead of afking at the gy.


The mistake you're making is to assume that 'less honor' translates into 'less ranking.'

If all the groups doing 1300k honor every week were getting 600k instead, they'd get the exact same progress towards their rank. This is because RP gain is almost entirely dependent on your weekly honor compared to the weekly honor for standing 1.

If multi-queue was disabled as this person suggests, premades would continue to get the same progress towards their rank, and PUG players would get more.

Re: about PVP premades dodging

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 3:56 pm
by Psyfe
Setup wrote:
RealTalk wrote:This is because RP gain is almost entirely dependent on your weekly honor compared to the weekly honor for standing 1.


Not correct. RP gain is dependant on which bracket you are in as well as the distance in honor to the one above and below you in standing. Standing 1 honor only matters for the rest of the people in bracket1, and ammount of people in bracket 1 is determined by total player pool. People in bracket 2 (12000-11000RP) are totally unaffected by how much honor standing 1 has.