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How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:31 pm
by Winterflaw
So, I have for the last two or three months been trying to up my PvP game.

I find in general WoW is pretty poor for PvP, because the user-interface is lacking. It is hard to know what's going on. Combat is basically a case of doing the right thing as much as you can, without really knowing how much effect it's having or if you're winning, until you've either won or died.

These I think are the key factors;

1. Slow other players down - reduce their movement speed. This tends to let you hit them, while they can't hit you, because you can race around them and through them (or stay away from them - depends on your class, what you want to do) which stops them from facing you to hit you, or keeps them away from you so they can't hit you.

2. Key binds for everything you're going to use, and since there are not so many keys which can be reached while you're also usin w/a/s/d to move, that means careful selection of what spells/effects you bind. You cannot ever click with the mouse during combat - you need the mouse for movement control.

3. Correct talent selection. Choices for PvP are utterly different to choices for PvE, and all tend to focus on reducing enemy movement speed.

4. Be an engineer. All the other professions you can have do things for you - someone else can make your kit, enchant it, etc - but the engineering gadgets you can only use if you're an engineer, and they can have a profound influence in PvP (Battle Chicken, Net-O-Matic, etc).

5. Potions. Lots of potions. In particular, the Free Action Potion. You should expect to use one of these per fight. They change everything. If you're say a warrior and you meet a mage or rogue, and you've taken a FAP, you win, and the corpse of that rogue or mage looks VERY surprised.

That's iit to start with...

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:44 pm
by Darkwinjax
Winterflaw wrote:So, I have for the last two or three months been trying to up my PvP game.

I find in general WoW is pretty poor for PvP, because the user-interface is lacking. It is hard to know what's going on. Combat is basically a case of doing the right thing as much as you can, without really knowing how much effect it's having or if you're winning, until you've either won or died.

These I think are the key factors;

1. Slow other players down - reduce their movement speed. This tends to let you hit them, while they can't hit you, because you can race around them and through them (or stay away from them - depends on your class, what you want to do) which stops them from facing you to hit you, or keeps them away from you so they can't hit you.

2. Key binds for everything you're going to use, and since there are not so many keys which can be reached while you're also usin w/a/s/d to move, that means careful selection of what spells/effects you bind. You cannot ever click with the mouse during combat - you need the mouse for movement control.

3. Correct talent selection. Choices for PvP are utterly different to choices for PvE, and all tend to focus on reducing enemy movement speed.

4. Be an engineer. All the other professions you can have do things for you - someone else can make your kit, enchant it, etc - but the engineering gadgets you can only use if you're an engineer, and they can have a profound influence in PvP (Battle Chicken, Net-O-Matic, etc).

5. Potions. Lots of potions. In particular, the Free Action Potion. You should expect to use one of these per fight. They change everything. If you're say a warrior and you meet a mage or rogue, and you've taken a FAP, you win, and the corpse of that rogue or mage looks VERY surprised.

That's iit to start with...


i agree , pvp is all about reducing enenmy moveamphetamine i carefulee bind spell like this 1 - EXAUSTion ofc for slow
2- shadowbelt for DAZE (10 % is luck ofc,.)

here is talent http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#IxhiVRMkLof0mZVV

ty and pls give credit to my for guide thanked )

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:55 pm
by Colezz
Winterflaw wrote:If you're say a warrior and you meet a mage and you've taken a FAP, you win


wrong, they can just polymorph you until it wears off. even if you pop FAP and skull of doom to stop poly the mage can just ice block till skull finishes, polymorph you until fap finishes and you lost.

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:59 pm
by Sham
PvP is fine, learn to play

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:52 pm
by Healthycoww
I haven't had one interesting or challenging game since the change, nothing stands out as exceptional or exciting.

AB is afk-counting, WSG doesn't pop.

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:00 pm
by Younie
Healthycoww wrote:I haven't had one interesting or challenging game since the change, nothing stands out as exceptional or exciting.

AB is afk-counting, WSG doesn't pop.

I have a nice video of you afking for 7min last ab game. I hope GMs warn before banning. Would sucks for your last week.

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:01 pm
by Healthycoww
Younie wrote:
Healthycoww wrote:I haven't had one interesting or challenging game since the change, nothing stands out as exceptional or exciting.

AB is afk-counting, WSG doesn't pop.

I have a nice video of you afking for 7min last ab game. I hope GMs warn before banning. Would sucks for your last week.


Your obsession with me is fascinating. :mrgreen:

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:19 pm
by Winterflaw
Colezz wrote:
Winterflaw wrote:If you're say a warrior and you meet a mage and you've taken a FAP, you win


wrong, they can just polymorph you until it wears off. even if you pop FAP and skull of doom to stop poly the mage can just ice block till skull finishes, polymorph you until fap finishes and you lost.


Yes, you're right. The only mages I've met so far kept trying to kill me / stop me using frost spells - they were caught out by the FAP and didn't know what to do (I guess I just kept showing up as "resist" or "immnune"). If they had sheeped, then they could have delayed combat until FAP wore off.

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:13 am
by pootpoot
Winterflaw wrote:
Colezz wrote:
Winterflaw wrote:If you're say a warrior and you meet a mage and you've taken a FAP, you win


wrong, they can just polymorph you until it wears off. even if you pop FAP and skull of doom to stop poly the mage can just ice block till skull finishes, polymorph you until fap finishes and you lost.


Yes, you're right. The only mages I've met so far kept trying to kill me / stop me using frost spells - they were caught out by the FAP and didn't know what to do (I guess I just kept showing up as "resist" or "immnune"). If they had sheeped, then they could have delayed combat until FAP wore off.


they can polymorph you until your buff wears out.

Re: How to Win at PvP

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:40 am
by Ihealwpvp
i'm a seasoned pvper, in and out of wow. my 2 cents on how to win at pvp.

1) Outnumber your opponent
2) Use every cheesy move you have/engineering/consume
3) Deceive
4) Don't fight honorably/fairly
5) Be calm, logical and calculating. raging and emotions leads to mistakes
6) React on muscle memory, not thought
7) Be water, adapt.