Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

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Hey,

I'm just wondering why we always have a freakin stupid PvP system....
I can understand the removal of multique... yeah, the dodging was awful, BUT I just played for 4 hours today, and all I made was 8k honor ( marks incl. ) because during this time, I only qued against alliance premades.
I'm not talking about 1 premade, there are like 3 chineese premades I constantly got qued into.

SO, we have a prem vs prem prio system, but the funny thing is, that I didnt have any horde premades in my grp. and seeing that alliance ( chineese ) premades have NO que time, even if they are 15 man, really makes me dissapointed, because if I want to make a prem and que with more than 5 ppl I get 10-15 min que times....

I dont know what would be the good solution for this, but I guess we could try the original system without the multique option, as it is right now.

PS.: /CRY and thanks for reading.

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Never understood why people keep crying about vanilla pvp being inbalanced or broken, just stop playing pvp is not worth your time.

Wow pvp dosent get competitive until tbc (arenas) where you W/L ratio matters in the determination of your rating and not how many hours per week you spend infront of a pc grinding.

Ciceron wrote:Never understood why people keep crying about vanilla pvp being inbalanced or broken, just stop playing pvp is not worth your time.

Wow pvp dosent get competitive until tbc (arenas) where you W/L ratio matters in the determination of your rating and not how many hours per week you spend infront of a pc grinding.

You are completely right, but...

We have found here a great server, with lots of people and activity, the server itself is fucking great! i think we all agree at this point. So i dont want to play in any other bugged/laggy/pay to win server, i want to play this one.

Sadly, is classic wow, what is great in pve terms, but the biggest shit of all wow history in terms of pvp. Devs should open a TBC as soon as they can, i think real pvpers (not rankers) would thank this a lot.

PhilipRed wrote:

Ciceron wrote:Devs should open a TBC as soon as they can, i think real pvpers (not rankers) would thank this a lot.

I'd transfer right away

Alliance premades will farm pugs without mercy due to the fact that Horde rankers cannot be bothered to eat the loss / hard game for you when they can just solo queue themselves.

You wanted this system.

Clapman wrote:SO, we have a prem vs prem prio system, but the funny thing is, that I didnt have any horde premades in my grp.

So why would we queue as premade anyway? We would be queuing -INTO- other premades. There's no chance of facing pugs unless your faction is the only one premading.

We as a group collectively decided to let the alliance have it. You can only get so many HKs on the same person before it becomes a literal waste of time.

All hail the system baby.

The original PvP ranking (!) ystem is, was, has always been and will always remain atrocious.

If you want to enjoy vanilla PvP, go ahead and beat others due to class superiority, luck, use of consumables, unbalanced situation or eventually some kind of skill (it actually can be lots of fun, e.g. 1 on 1 situations in AV, turning around WSG games as flag carrier and so on)

disable join as group function - problem solved

nah, join as group isn't the problem, playing with friends is a major part of the fun the system offers

Scenario 1: Get farmed by premade.
Scenario 2: Farm pugs as premade.

Yeah that's a lot of fun.

It's the premade vs premade matching bias that completely kills the premade vs premade gameplay.

I know for an absolute fact that if alliance premades are playing, and I queue as 10, I'll match against it.

You should -NOT- be able to predict your battles like that. Not at all.

If it were worthwhile for Horde premades to queue as a group, solo queues could have a break once in a while when they fought each other.