Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

Hello PvPers of Nostalrius.

I have a question, is/was Warsong Gulch graveyard jumping
1: Blizzlike
2: Honorable gameplay
3: Bannable back in the day
4: Something that should be fixed? (Opinions)

What is graveyard jumping? Graveyard jumping is a term mostly used when for instance a horde druid picks up a flag, runs below (and far east side) their graveyard, and jumps from the cliffs so that they can get to the ressing area and having a "shortcut" to skip ramp/tunnel.

I myself do not find this okay, no matter which team would abuse it. Just that afaik only druids and maybe shamans can do the jump while carrying flag, without consumables. Also, if the graveyard was supposed to have a way up, it would be a clear path, not some fishy jumping on cliffs. Getting a bit tired seeing enemy rogue use fap in flagroom and getting all the way to middle with speedboosts and little peeling, then drop to druid who faps and runs up to the graveyard jump position and scores or gets to safety, diminishing the opposing team capability to attack / defend their flag immensely. Sure it's a good play but not something I'd encourage, especially when the team itself is losing almost every combat but can zerg the enemy healersless FC eventually.

In short, my opinion is that this method is not originally intented and should not be abused, also it should be obviously fixed aswell.

Thanks for reading and answers.

lol ok

There's so much more shit in warsong that you people have no idea of, but yes it was in retail.

Ohhgee wrote:lol ok

Keep trolling at it's minimum please. I know you are on these forums 24/7 and hardly provide any useful insight.
I think this is an issue that should be discussed since it's really a grey area. People in general should have an idea if it's wrong even to extend of banning, or something people should start considering more putting it to their strategies and if they should bother to counter this properly.

"lo ok" doesn't quite cover this.

Niko wrote:There's so much more shit in warsong that you people have no idea of, but yes it was in retail.

Back in retail there was alot of stuff in vanilla in WSG that I don't see happening here, as they were wrong as hell and got fixed for a reason, and these things no longer exist in WSG of Nostalrius. Things such as going behind enemy flag spot wall, and when flag would be returned you'd walk through to cap. Things like walljumping (which in it's original form doesn't really exist any more as it was eventually fixed in retail, it was still in the game at this stage) to places like edges of WSG, roof walls, god knows what. They don't exist any more or I have totally lost the skill to do those things, and nobody else seems to do them either. I just don't see GYjumping any different.


While in principal you are right, it doesn't really have anything to do with the post, beside confirming it was in retail of course.

What more experienced Vanilla PvP players here are trying to tell you.

-Yes these things were possible.
- No, they weren't banable.

GY jumping is possible for both factions and all classes it's is just a matter of experience.
It is also not by any means abuse by safespotting, you just have to step up and learn those jumps yourself.

However, you can get to safe spots by exploiting class mechanics which is understandably banable.

it existed in vanilla, also worse bugs did as well. it doesnt break any rules and just requires some small practice, so its unlikely to be bannable/reportable

you arent below/above terrain/geometry

I know how the GY jumping is done thank you, just haven't had the time to test it out on every darn class and with what speed I would need it, 50%? regular? mounts? How do each sides GY jumping vary from one another?

I believe if third way to get up to the base was meant to be there, it would have nice road going up with lights on the side and shit like, the typical ramp for instance. Pretty sure it's just overlooked in design when the terrain was made low as possible to reduce falldamage. Abusing it is clearly questionable. I wouldn't myself go around banning people for it, I'd just edit the terrain a tiny bit or something. I would love to hear a GM opinion on it aswell, since they so often differ from playerbase, or at least parts of it. (try to have tens of thousands of people agree on one thing...)

meta game = exploit

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