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Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:55 pm
by Weteran
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=30263

If the system will not be blizzlike, many are players are calling for Solo que to be the only option, and remove the premades. I don't think that's completely viable as some players like to group together. For this reason, I think only small groups should be allowed to que, and those groups should be matched with a certain amount of solo quers.

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:52 pm
by snawfu
multique means being able to que into multiple battlegrounds at the same time (this isnt in effect on Nostrils sever)



give blizzlike quesystem + no multique

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:05 am
by Ohhgee
+1 for Blizzlike Queue with no multiqueue

BG system been total cancer since original changes happened in August

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:26 am
by Dreez
Ohhgee wrote:+1 for Blizzlike Queue with no multiqueue

BG system been total cancer since original changes happened in August

don't act like it hasn't been cancer before as well...
the queue system has always and will always be abused unless very non-blizzlike changes are done; I described one option here: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=30263&start=20#p211624

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:04 am
by Ohhgee
if queues are Blizzlike and there's no multiqueue (no dodge) then the system is fine.

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:30 pm
by arOo
Dreez wrote:
Ohhgee wrote:+1 for Blizzlike Queue with no multiqueue

BG system been total cancer since original changes happened in August

don't act like it hasn't been cancer before as well...
the queue system has always and will always be abused unless very non-blizzlike changes are done; I described one option here: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=30263&start=20#p211624

For your suggestion to be effective the group-q cooldown has to be alot higher, who cares about 3min of waiting time when you can dodge a long game with it.
---> If you are doing higher waiting times however, you are punishing legit good teams that 5cap/win warsong in <X minutes - So that's not viable either.


It has been proven many times over again on different Vanilla Realms, Blizzlike Q w/o Multique is the least exploitable system.
--> There is no effective way of dodging, but scouting the opponent faction. Which is a punishable offense according to the ToS.
--> It makes sure the best Premade gains the most amount of honor (factionwise) & thats how it is supposed to be.

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:35 pm
by Ana
arOo wrote:It has been proven many times over again on different Vanilla Realms, Blizzlike Q w/o Multique is the least exploitable system.
--> There is no effective way of dodging, but scouting the opponent faction.


Join TS together, queue on countdown.
Punishable? Any rule is moot if you have no way of finding the offenders.

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:52 pm
by arOo
Where would be the benefit in that, if you have the same queues as Solo-Q and no Prem vs Prem priority.

Blizzlike w/o multiques, promotes the groups to stay grouped since you wont get any benefit from going solo.

edit: ok, i see where you are coming from - but that isn't possible due to the odds when it comes to factions.
Horde side always has people waiting in a queue and you have no way of telling which position you are in.
So this wouldn't work either.

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:33 pm
by Rashgar
Disable group queue or separate Group queue from matching up against Solo queue players

Re: Remove Premade Vs Premade Priority

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:39 pm
by snawfu
Rashgar wrote:Disable group queue or separate Group queue from matching up against Solo queue players

if you can't even play as 5man, the person who will stay on the most (china) will get top standing.