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Horde loses so much???

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Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:27 pm
by wiseoldenemy
Ok, so after losing about 90% of AV yesterday and today, I've had enough. Literally every single BG weekend horde stinks crap I don't understand, I literally lose like 80% of my bgs. This can't just be me right? some one please tell me it's just bad luck or something, I don't AFK I don't not participate... I know how to play all the bgs but it seems that horde just stinks outright. AB weekend ally premades rip holes in our asses, then when we finally fight rand vs rand, its a hard uphill battle which we only win sometimes.
Now about AV, if anyone didn't know the great Nost devs broke the alliance backdoor by adding mines, that was the ONLY WAY HORDE CAN WIN. So, now alliance just gets a little people to defend and then rapes our easy to take over base, it really feels impossible to win.
On top of all that, instead of putting mines at backdoor so horde can never win (Nost devs play alliance or something? starting to look like Feenix...) how about we fix the 2 minute respawn on elites so the battleground actually works as it was supposed to?
Or, at least take out all combat NPCs, let players defend the flags, that would actually make it a fun BG.
Re: Horde loses so much???

Posted:
Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:44 pm
by Saoritficis
Well y'know, horde could take snowfall, and play the AV as the tug-of-war match it's supposed to be.
Or leave some of the team behind to defend, as the alliance does.
So yea, there's two alternatives to what horde does now, which makes us lose so much.
Re: Horde loses so much???

Posted:
Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:19 am
by Niko
tldr
it's different from week to week
depends on who's playing and what hours you are playing
Re: Horde loses so much???

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Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:37 am
by wiseoldenemy
no dude. I played yesterday and today I won once, lost TWENTY TIMES. This isn't normal. Last AB weekend I lost literally 85% of my games. Somethings not right here.
Re: Horde loses so much???

Posted:
Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:47 am
by Niko
Well, I lost two games on alliance today, having played about six alterac.
Me being in defense with some other mages, actually making the difference of a win or loss.
It really depends on who queues into your game, perhaps you just had piss luck.
Protip is to try and find out how the games look, usually there's 2-3 AVs up and you were in a shitty AV you could try instantqueueing to get into an existing game that is yet not full.
If you just exited a good game, wait a few seconds for the existing games to fill up so that you get queued with as many of the people from the previous game. It's shit sometimes, but I think you've just been extremely unlucky, but then again it's different from week to week which faction dominates.
Re: Horde loses so much???

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Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:10 am
by wiseoldenemy
Why did they put mines at the alliance backdoor, don't they know horde is already at a huge disadvantage? Allys can just walk into our base! we cannot do the same thing, its near impossible to pass the bridge. Oh well, I quit this game this is really not worth it. gotta grind hours with 0 fun best game NA.
Re: Horde loses so much???

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Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:32 am
by Fubbzy
wiseoldenemy wrote:Why did they put mines at the alliance backdoor, don't they know horde is already at a huge disadvantage? Allys can just walk into our base! we cannot do the same thing, its near impossible to pass the bridge. Oh well, I quit this game this is really not worth it. gotta grind hours with 0 fun best game NA.
you can still backdoor just as well, its not like they put invis walls up, just get your ROGUES to disarm and hope no one backpeddles blindly into one...
also if you played alliance you would be just as frustrated, alliance have a harder early game and easy late while horde have easy early and hard late. until alliance gets to tower point, a few mages/hunters can completely shut down the ~30 man offense due to how narrow the path is that is mineless. horde have an easy first 2 bunkers (stonehearth is literally in the field of strife) the only problem is the insanity that is the 3 respawning elites at shgy.
i mean ill agree that av is annoying/tiring sometimes but honestly just take a break lol, if u keep playing then youll just be in the same queue with the same guys who lost the last match
Re: Horde loses so much???

Posted:
Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:11 am
by Halcyon702
Isn't it obvious?
The GMs play alliance
Re: Horde loses so much???

Posted:
Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:50 am
by stimz
Halcyon702 wrote:Isn't it obvious?
The GMs play alliance
Alliance has always been at an advantage. The difference between real vanilla and nost is that more good players were on horde than alliance.
Re: Horde loses so much???

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Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:26 am
by lycos
wiseoldenemy wrote:Why did they put mines at the alliance backdoor, don't they know horde is already at a huge disadvantage? Allys can just walk into our base! we cannot do the same thing, its near impossible to pass the bridge. Oh well, I quit this game this is really not worth it. gotta grind hours with 0 fun best game NA.
So you think Blizzard designed AV at first place with this map backdoor exploit so hordes can shortcut and go straight to the last gy? Its an exploit. But they didn't fix it right. They need to decrease the mine respawn time. A good horde team usually win AV by this exploit within 30min.
If your team is full of lv 51-55 going for herbs, mine ores and fishing you will lose. At the games I played this week hordes were full of leveling players and many low ranks lv 60 (most mages had around 2k hp....). Also, your tactic this week was to defend Galv and summon wolf raiders. This way alliance couldn't go south so you had to face a full defend. Soon hordes were so much scattered and alliance players easy won.
With this exploit man if hordes lose its usually their fault. Leveling and ungeared players can't win.