Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k Honor

Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k Honor

by pulser » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:18 pm

Hi everyone.
I'm going to write about something that many people might already know, and I'm going to be writing straight up what comes to mind, so excuse me for unedited text.

I've witnessed premade dodging in arathi basin a couple of times now when I accidently ended up in premades of the Guild Nope.

The horde immediately gave up, so I checked /who with a horde character and the people seemed to be random.

this behaviour will cause some players to get 800k honor when other normal pugs only have a chance at 100-200k

the premades ended up with 2000 resources and for the other side 0 resources, just like last times.

which makes a huge disadvantage for people that haven't found a premade group of this frightening presence for the horde.

Afking in bgs were always a problem on retail but those are random battles and the resources ratio for both teams are at least progressive on each side.
Completely dodging a team however was less common and has started as a trend here on nostalrius, which has to stop!

Right now I think GMs are focusing on players afking in those normal bgs which are when both teams have a progressive honor, because tickets have been written about afkers, and people want to win
and i think that this can not occur in the premade dodging because the opposite team wins too fast and noone has time to write a ticket because the match will be over within minutes.

I want to put it out here
premade dodging that has 0 resources for one team and 2000 resources for the opposite team is breaking pvp more than random afking in bgs.

Everyone gives up and doesn't play.
some players can reach 800k honor and there is no chance that people outside the premade can even come close to 50% of that.
it needs to stop quickly before the advantage of some players has reached a new height. I think even some honor reduction should take place because of all the dodging games going on. winning dodging games all day everyday is making me jeallous ok. and Nothing was seen by the GMs I guess.
Investigate it please and (i'm sorry) take action against the exploit even if it was innocent exploit, it's just not working out here, this pvp doesn't work for anyone now except those lucky,

it's just like making a deal with a horde team saying u win one game, u let us win the next game, but this is an automatic deal occuring with randoms without a deal, oh my what am I writing now but its true.
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Re: Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k H

by pulser » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:20 pm

I was in this game it was over with the blink of an eye, let me join more?
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Re: Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k H

by pulser » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:26 pm

my suggestion is 50% reduction of honor for people that has a large record of being in premade dodging this last week, and a temp ban for 3 times concurrently afking in a 0 resource game for the opposite team
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Re: Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k H

by Lerix » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:27 pm

Standing is faction specific so it doesn't do anything to the horde and it doesn't really do anything to the Alliance either. Let's say all 15 of their premade gets 1mil honor so they're standing 1-15, some other guy could have 200k honor and still get standing 16. The top standing isn't necessary until r14. For the horde it doesn't do anything, our standing 1 could have 200k honor. I'm not really sure what you mean by premade dodging either? No one's dodging them, people get put against a 10-15man premade and know they're going to lose either way so they wait for it to end. That's not dodging.
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Re: Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k H

by pulser » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:30 pm

Ok Lerix your opinion is fine. But I don't agree that this is not dodging
and I want to put more emphasis on that afking in such situation should be higher priority than afking in a normal battleground, because this dodging is not normal for the competition
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Re: Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k H

by runklebc » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:32 pm

Your post is hilarious. Good players playing premades isn't against the rules. If there are 15 good players playing together and winning that isn't a problem. That means more horde need to queue and play better to win.

People don't like to lose so they will leave the game if they are horde. Alliance aren't dodging, horde are dodging. Horde need to stop camping MC and get into BGs.
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Re: Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k H

by pulser » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:35 pm

runklebc my post is to let people know about this. I take it that you already know about some can win without the effort of killing 1 single horde and you think that's great because they are good players.
The horde didn't leave the game, they afk in the game until the premade won

I haven't encountered this on a retail server, the opposite faction would at least give a little effort to fight back, completely afking isnt allowed.
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Re: Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k H

by Dog » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:37 pm

pulser why dont you make a premade yourself of 15 and outfarm alliance premade ? Ah wait noone likes you and wants to play with you cause you are a little rat.
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Re: Premade dodging makes pvp broken. players can get 800k H

by Lerix » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:38 pm

pulser wrote:Ok Lerix your opinion is fine. But I don't agree that this is not dodging
and I want to put more emphasis on that afking in such situation should be higher priority than afking in a normal battleground, because this dodging is not normal for the competition

They would lose either way because they're against a 10-15 queue of pretty good class spread who have epic mounts and communication. They could get 1 base if they tried their hardest and squeak out 100 extra honor while making the game take 5x as long. There's 0 reason for them to try, get over it.
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